our clear conscience over your genocidal comfort any day.
Spoken like a true dipshit loser.
“Herp derp, I actually hope my nation collapses so I don’t have to grow a brain and stop being a single issue voter and put my grievances to the side in order to prevent a nation from collapsing and millions of innocent people from suffering under an authoritarian dumbfuck who violates our Constitutional rights. My clear conscience is worth more than other people’s lives.”
You are a world class stupid fuck. Go fuck yourself, scumfuck.
You wanted a net positive for you and yours when you declared genocide is not a red line. I want a net positive for all humanity, and humanity will move past the dead American empire.
Yeah kiddo, a nation whose economy is integral to global welfare, with military installations all over the globe, coming under the control of an authoritarian regime, is a net positive for the world.
How the absolute fuck did you become this stupid?
You sound like some dumbfuck edgelord preteen who just found out politics exists.
Always blaming the voters never actually holding your electeds to any sort of standard. If you voted for someone supporting genocide I kindly discard your opinion thanks :)
Why do you blame voters for not voting for a dogshit candidate and not the dogshit candidates? Why not blame the Democratic party and its refusal to allow an actual primary to allow a person who actually represents the will of the people?
What a laughably childish line of reasoning you have here. How does voting for more genocide and war and deregulation make your life any better? How does supporting that system uncritically help you?
It doesn’t. Go read some books and educate yourself just a little bit before contributing such useless pablum next time.
Can you point me to policy that makes you believe he’s worse? Biden started the genocide and defended it vehemently. Kamala Harris lied about them working on a peace deal for 2 years. Why am I supposed to believe she would be better when all indicators suggests she is just as pro Israel as Trump?
Sorry I have a shred of morality to stand on and am not happy just signing off on genocide.
How you look at our political system and how utterly broken it is devoid of any substantive connection to the will of the people and blame ME speaks to both the level of depravity and patent refusal to grapple with the material realities of our world that liberalism is unfit to deal with.
How you look at two candidates who promise endless war and destruction with no plan to make the lives of those suffering at home better and then blame me for saying both are disgusting and will lead to many of the same results baffles me.
If you think Kamala Harris would have been different on Gaza you are braindead. If you think she would have been less gungho for deportation (Biden increased ICE a fuck load because he likes deporting people so much and remember Kamala Harris was just more Biden based on her entire campaign) you are braindead. If you think we wouldn’t have bombed Iran or attacked Venezuela in some way you are braindead.
The fact of the matter is Kamala Harris had an easy path to victory if she only actually catered her messaging to people who are suffering in this country. Instead of leaning into incredibly popular progessive policy she decided (as dems always do) to go to the center to peal off people from the right because God forbid we try the policies that work anywhere else in the world.
The audacity of bloodthirsty liberals looking down on others with a backbone. Here is a line that I’m sure will make your little brain explode. Trump is president in no small part because of how awful Obama was as a president.
Well that’s good, because you’ve got a below room temperature IQ. So hold on tight to that shred of morality. I’m sure it’s the only shred you have left after helping to empower fascists.
Why are all the dumbest motherfuckers on Lemmy from .ml? Go back to your pathetic circlejerk and leave the thinking to people with brains.
I’m reduced to name calling because it’s game over. Done. We lost. You fucked us all over. Democracy is gone. The world is in a downwards spiral. That’s on you. So fuck you.
Also brother if you think we live in a democracy. If you ever thought it was meant to represent you…the founders of our country disagree. They made our constitution undemocratic on purpose because of how much they hated poors.
Yeah, you’re an idiot; you’ve already made that clear. You can want more progressive leadership - and I agree with that, but given the choice, you supported trump and the speed run to fascism, insane global bullying, corruption and support of pedophiles. That’s on you and now we’re fucked.
Have you not been paying any god damned attention the things Trump has been doing? I mean, we know you’re stupid, but are you genuinely that fucking stupid that you think things would be exactly as they are now if Kamala was in office? Of course it wouldn’t be a socialist utopia, but do you honestly believe that Kamala would have kidnapped a head of state as part of a hostile government regime change or put blatant propaganda in schools? Are you really that fucking smothered in your own idiocy and delusion?
You don’t have political views, all you have is a dogma.
Liberals like this can’t be reasoned with they are stuck in their own little bubble thinking if only they vote harder they can get that change they want. They are stuck fighting for their meaningless existence as an independent actor free of the shackles of others to the detriment of the collective action they desperately need but view with such disdain.
How does voting for the same people with the same inane politics that don’t benefit you at all help?
It feels like you haven’t thought about it at all. I encourage you to do that painful as it might be.
The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again expecting different results.
Also I love that y’all never have any substantive response just shit flinging. Deeply unserious and makes you look like a moron to anyone but those who lack any kind of knowledge at all (such as yourself based on your responses).
Also laughable you think I am doing nothing. I’m an extremely active member of local organizing groups in my area. Last year we got legislation protecting transgender people passed and we’ve bolstered our rapid response network for combating ICE among other things.
To not understand how constant capitulation to capitalist interests has led to where we are (on both sides this is uniparty) speaks to your extremely myopic understanding of the world. Try again.
Hey try again with an actual argument! I know liberals really struggle with making arguments founded in reality but I’m sure you can try a little harder. I believe in you!
And among the other things you’ve done, you’ve helped to fund ICE, you’ve helped to increase healthcare costs for millions of americans, you’ve helped destabilize venezuela
This is not shit flinging. This is the reality of not voting. You have enabled these things to happen.
I know what I did. I tried to help avoid these things.
See this is the same idiotic line of reasoning that leads us to having ever worse political candidates. It not the party’s fault for having dogshit warmonger candidates who want to further entrench corporate oligarchy in the US its the people who don’t want to vote for that!
So fucking stupid dude why are you so hellbent on being a willing cuck to the system that fucking hates you and wants you dead?
How you are not mad at the Dems for not running all the most popular policies that would have slam dunk won the election is crazy lmao. It’s loser shit and speaks to how servile you are to the systems that be.
Also just FYI if every person who didn’t vote (I did vote BTW just not for Kamala or Trump) voted for Kamala she still lost so your argument doesn’t even make sense. Also the number one reason why people didnt vote for her was Gaza and the second was the economy. What do you think this means about how she should have run her campaign if she wanted to win?
Classic liberals going straight for slurs when they have nothing of substance. Gimme an argument or fuck off tbh. Can you make a coherent argument? I’d like to see you try if you can do it without commit bodily harm to yourself.
Yeah, and were much better off because of your actions.
The whole world will be better off when the American empire collapses, our clear conscience over your genocidal comfort any day.
Spoken like a true dipshit loser.
“Herp derp, I actually hope my nation collapses so I don’t have to grow a brain and stop being a single issue voter and put my grievances to the side in order to prevent a nation from collapsing and millions of innocent people from suffering under an authoritarian dumbfuck who violates our Constitutional rights. My clear conscience is worth more than other people’s lives.”
You are a world class stupid fuck. Go fuck yourself, scumfuck.
Not sure how you have a clear conscience when you enabled a fascist.
If you choose not to decide, you still have made a choice.
I reject your assertion, but I’ll humor you.
That’s how. Net positive for the world.
You wanted a net positive for you and yours when you declared genocide is not a red line. I want a net positive for all humanity, and humanity will move past the dead American empire.
I reject your dumbfuckery.
Yeah kiddo, a nation whose economy is integral to global welfare, with military installations all over the globe, coming under the control of an authoritarian regime, is a net positive for the world.
How the absolute fuck did you become this stupid?
You sound like some dumbfuck edgelord preteen who just found out politics exists.
You can reject my assertion all you want.
It doesn’t change reality. You enable fascists.
Whatever else you have to say is effectively useless because you are in effect a fascist yourself for enabling one.
Congrats, you’ve played yourself.
You stupid fucking idiot.
Preach brother. These liberals love claiming to be pro freedom as long as they command the boot of empire.
Always blaming the voters never actually holding your electeds to any sort of standard. If you voted for someone supporting genocide I kindly discard your opinion thanks :)
WHO THE FUCK DO YOU THINK ELECTED THEM!?!?!?!?!
Sorry, I don’t speak “Dumbfuck Single Issue Voter”. Could you repeat that again in English?
Why do you blame voters for not voting for a dogshit candidate and not the dogshit candidates? Why not blame the Democratic party and its refusal to allow an actual primary to allow a person who actually represents the will of the people?
What a laughably childish line of reasoning you have here. How does voting for more genocide and war and deregulation make your life any better? How does supporting that system uncritically help you?
It doesn’t. Go read some books and educate yourself just a little bit before contributing such useless pablum next time.
Also wild that my issue is GENOCIDE. Like just tell me you like murdering brown people and move on dude. Lmao
But trump is way WORSE on the genocide issue. Can you be more moronic?
Can you point me to policy that makes you believe he’s worse? Biden started the genocide and defended it vehemently. Kamala Harris lied about them working on a peace deal for 2 years. Why am I supposed to believe she would be better when all indicators suggests she is just as pro Israel as Trump?
This is the stupidity that brought Trump to power. You are responsible for everything he does as president. Congratulations.
Sorry I have a shred of morality to stand on and am not happy just signing off on genocide.
How you look at our political system and how utterly broken it is devoid of any substantive connection to the will of the people and blame ME speaks to both the level of depravity and patent refusal to grapple with the material realities of our world that liberalism is unfit to deal with.
How you look at two candidates who promise endless war and destruction with no plan to make the lives of those suffering at home better and then blame me for saying both are disgusting and will lead to many of the same results baffles me.
If you think Kamala Harris would have been different on Gaza you are braindead. If you think she would have been less gungho for deportation (Biden increased ICE a fuck load because he likes deporting people so much and remember Kamala Harris was just more Biden based on her entire campaign) you are braindead. If you think we wouldn’t have bombed Iran or attacked Venezuela in some way you are braindead.
The fact of the matter is Kamala Harris had an easy path to victory if she only actually catered her messaging to people who are suffering in this country. Instead of leaning into incredibly popular progessive policy she decided (as dems always do) to go to the center to peal off people from the right because God forbid we try the policies that work anywhere else in the world.
The audacity of bloodthirsty liberals looking down on others with a backbone. Here is a line that I’m sure will make your little brain explode. Trump is president in no small part because of how awful Obama was as a president.
Well that’s good, because you’ve got a below room temperature IQ. So hold on tight to that shred of morality. I’m sure it’s the only shred you have left after helping to empower fascists.
Why are all the dumbest motherfuckers on Lemmy from .ml? Go back to your pathetic circlejerk and leave the thinking to people with brains.
Yeah because y’all liberals are doin a bang up job. What a joke.
You could just tell me you like seeing Muslims get murdered rather trying to make it seem like anything else.
If you’ll vote for genocide you’ll vote for anything. Sorry I’ve actually educated myself and have a shred of humanity still lol
Also as usual y’all got no smoke other than name calling. Typical small brained liberal take tbh.
I’m reduced to name calling because it’s game over. Done. We lost. You fucked us all over. Democracy is gone. The world is in a downwards spiral. That’s on you. So fuck you.
Also brother if you think we live in a democracy. If you ever thought it was meant to represent you…the founders of our country disagree. They made our constitution undemocratic on purpose because of how much they hated poors.
Ok then, so you’re fine with it going full dictator / fascist?
Naw its namecalling because you have no logical arguments to make. Its just vibes. Loser shit. Lmao.
Yeah, you’re an idiot; you’ve already made that clear. You can want more progressive leadership - and I agree with that, but given the choice, you supported trump and the speed run to fascism, insane global bullying, corruption and support of pedophiles. That’s on you and now we’re fucked.
How am I an idiot? Can you make coherent points as to why things would he so different under Kamala?
Have you not been paying any god damned attention the things Trump has been doing? I mean, we know you’re stupid, but are you genuinely that fucking stupid that you think things would be exactly as they are now if Kamala was in office? Of course it wouldn’t be a socialist utopia, but do you honestly believe that Kamala would have kidnapped a head of state as part of a hostile government regime change or put blatant propaganda in schools? Are you really that fucking smothered in your own idiocy and delusion?
You don’t have political views, all you have is a dogma.
Trump is a symptom of the apathy of the likes of you. You don’t think people outside the US are human.
Wtf u talking about?
Liberals like this can’t be reasoned with they are stuck in their own little bubble thinking if only they vote harder they can get that change they want. They are stuck fighting for their meaningless existence as an independent actor free of the shackles of others to the detriment of the collective action they desperately need but view with such disdain.
And somehow, you’ve convinced yourself that doing nothing will change things for the better.
What a crock of shit lmao
How does voting for the same people with the same inane politics that don’t benefit you at all help?
It feels like you haven’t thought about it at all. I encourage you to do that painful as it might be.
The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again expecting different results.
Also I love that y’all never have any substantive response just shit flinging. Deeply unserious and makes you look like a moron to anyone but those who lack any kind of knowledge at all (such as yourself based on your responses).
Also laughable you think I am doing nothing. I’m an extremely active member of local organizing groups in my area. Last year we got legislation protecting transgender people passed and we’ve bolstered our rapid response network for combating ICE among other things.
What are you doing?
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To not understand how constant capitulation to capitalist interests has led to where we are (on both sides this is uniparty) speaks to your extremely myopic understanding of the world. Try again.
Hey try again with an actual argument! I know liberals really struggle with making arguments founded in reality but I’m sure you can try a little harder. I believe in you!
And among the other things you’ve done, you’ve helped to fund ICE, you’ve helped to increase healthcare costs for millions of americans, you’ve helped destabilize venezuela
This is not shit flinging. This is the reality of not voting. You have enabled these things to happen.
I know what I did. I tried to help avoid these things.
You sure as fuck did not.
See this is the same idiotic line of reasoning that leads us to having ever worse political candidates. It not the party’s fault for having dogshit warmonger candidates who want to further entrench corporate oligarchy in the US its the people who don’t want to vote for that!
So fucking stupid dude why are you so hellbent on being a willing cuck to the system that fucking hates you and wants you dead?
How you are not mad at the Dems for not running all the most popular policies that would have slam dunk won the election is crazy lmao. It’s loser shit and speaks to how servile you are to the systems that be.
Also just FYI if every person who didn’t vote (I did vote BTW just not for Kamala or Trump) voted for Kamala she still lost so your argument doesn’t even make sense. Also the number one reason why people didnt vote for her was Gaza and the second was the economy. What do you think this means about how she should have run her campaign if she wanted to win?
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Classic liberals going straight for slurs when they have nothing of substance. Gimme an argument or fuck off tbh. Can you make a coherent argument? I’d like to see you try if you can do it without commit bodily harm to yourself.
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