The specialist in neurodevelopmental issues argues the case for banning social media for under-16s: ‘Those who had a smartphone with free access to internet content before the age of 15 have worse mental health indicators’
I fucking hate all of these people. You do not improve people’s lives by restricting their freedoms.
If you care about the mental health issues of young people, then actually tackle the causes of those issues. Fund mental health care. Provide youth centres. Kids are growing up in our fucking nightmare world, it’s no surprise they have mental health problems. I grew up here too, and yeah, same.
They’re taking away social media because the kids learned about Israel’s genocide on TikTok. There’s no evidence which demonstrates a causative link between decline in mental health and social media use in teens. It’s all complete bullshit.
Don’t worry about it, even going back over ten years when I was active on Reddit I’d get downvoted to oblivion for my position on many things which everyone now agrees with. Mainstream society usually needs a bit of time to catch up to me. A year or two from now, everyone will have been against this. I can almost guarantee it.
I really hope that people will see through the lies and support people’s rights
Sidenote, “One Day, Everyone Will Have Always Been Against This” is a good book, it’s about Gaza but also the misuse of language in politics. It’s about how the people who are full on supporting repugnant things will some day swear up and down they didn’t
Yeah you do. If you restrict the ability to fuck over others, most of us would be happier. I’m mainly thinking of amassing obscene wealth, but there are other ways
You ever notice how no one ever recommends doing things that are empowering even when the data says they actually do protect children? Only ever restrictions?
The domination of children is fundamental for conservatism. Even leftists and liberals have been brainwashed into thinking the “traditional” family unit is a good, natural thing, when it is very clearly a vehicle for child abuse.
The Epstein class don’t give even a little bit of a shit about protecting kids, of course they don’t, they want to exploit them. The fact that the mainstream is actually buying into these lies is depressing. Everyone is accepting it with very little evidence.
A classic way of knowing your biases is to know what you’ll accept without evidence.
Those who had spent four or more hours with screens were 4.78 times more likely to have underdeveloped communication skills, 1.74 times more likely to have subpar fine motor skills and two times more likely to have underdeveloped personal and social skills by age 2. By age 4, risk remained only in the communication and problem-solving categories.
Screen-based media use by young children – recommendations
Parents:
• No screen time for children younger than 2 years, with an exception of video chatting
• Minimize screen time for children 2–5 (max 1 h), providing alternative activities
• Avoid exposing children to background screens, e.g., by turning TV off if no one is watching or when child is present in the room
• Engage in co-viewing and mediating strategies, by e.g., creating rules on screen-time and which content is allowed to be viewed, explaining what is happening on the screen, asking questions about viewed content
• Select interactive media content and use media together with your child
• Avoid fast-paced programs and apps with highly distracting content, select programs that are not interrupted with commercials
• Screen media should not be used as means to calm children, with an exception of special times, e.g., during medical procedures or flights
• Use of screen-devices should be avoided by all family members during meal and playtimes, right before nap/bedtime, and during family gatherings
• Discuss any concerns regarding child screen-media use with healthcare providers
• Create a personalized media plan using a Family Media Plan platform developed by AAP with the help of a healthcare provider if necessary
… What, are you gonna say ‘well thats young kids, not teens’… as if effects that start at an early age don’t compound overtime with the same usage patterns?
You ever seen the videos of those kids that will scream and cry… untill the device is given back?
The pre-teens and tweens who will destroy a parent’s car, knowing they are on camera, because they confiscated their device?
Sorry, but a whole lot of the root of this issue is parents who are utterly checked the fuck out.
Unless you’re gonna propose regulating the ability to have a child, have the state raise these kids in lieu of the parents… everything else is just a bandaid.
The kind of fixes to society that would be required to address this in a non restrictive way would basically be: Fix the entire economy such that parents can afford to have time with their kids.
Mental health care availability?
Do Medicare for all first, then, maybe we can talk about that, otherwise, can’t afford it, who cares.
Youth centers?
You seen how expensive cars are, how much debt people are in for them? Who can afford to drive the kids there and back, who has the time?
Your bandaid solutions are very far from being sufficient to address what is basically the total collapse of society.
Sorry, but a whole lot of the root of this issue is parents who are utterly checked the fuck out.
Yes, exactly, and that is why these new laws restricting social media access for people under 16 will do nothing to help the situation and take away the rights of a minority group for no gain.
That is my entire point. It does not solve the problems at all. My “bandaid fixes” aren’t proposals, they are examples of things someone would do if they actually wanted to solve the problem. The fact that those options are being ignored and the only policy being installed is censorship should tell you everything you need to know about the policy. It isn’t even INTENDED to help.
I am 100% on board with the abolition of capitalism. You are arguing with someone who already agrees with you. I have been advocating for the abolition of capitalism for over ten years.
I fucking hate all of these people. You do not improve people’s lives by restricting their freedoms.
If you care about the mental health issues of young people, then actually tackle the causes of those issues. Fund mental health care. Provide youth centres. Kids are growing up in our fucking nightmare world, it’s no surprise they have mental health problems. I grew up here too, and yeah, same.
They’re taking away social media because the kids learned about Israel’s genocide on TikTok. There’s no evidence which demonstrates a causative link between decline in mental health and social media use in teens. It’s all complete bullshit.
You get it, don’t let all the downvotes from the clueless convince you otherwise
Don’t worry about it, even going back over ten years when I was active on Reddit I’d get downvoted to oblivion for my position on many things which everyone now agrees with. Mainstream society usually needs a bit of time to catch up to me. A year or two from now, everyone will have been against this. I can almost guarantee it.
I really hope that people will see through the lies and support people’s rights
Sidenote, “One Day, Everyone Will Have Always Been Against This” is a good book, it’s about Gaza but also the misuse of language in politics. It’s about how the people who are full on supporting repugnant things will some day swear up and down they didn’t
Yeah you do. If you restrict the ability to fuck over others, most of us would be happier. I’m mainly thinking of amassing obscene wealth, but there are other ways
You do not improve a person’s life by removing that person’s freedom, is my point. There aren’t any teenage billionaires…?
You ever notice how no one ever recommends doing things that are empowering even when the data says they actually do protect children? Only ever restrictions?
The domination of children is fundamental for conservatism. Even leftists and liberals have been brainwashed into thinking the “traditional” family unit is a good, natural thing, when it is very clearly a vehicle for child abuse.
The Epstein class don’t give even a little bit of a shit about protecting kids, of course they don’t, they want to exploit them. The fact that the mainstream is actually buying into these lies is depressing. Everyone is accepting it with very little evidence.
A classic way of knowing your biases is to know what you’ll accept without evidence.
I hate how so many people are falling for the propaganda. I want a better solution than traditional.families
My point is you vastly improve others’ lives. You reduce the ceiling of freedom for everyone but increase the baseline freedom everyone experiences
How is this even slightly relevant to the topic? Whose life are you improving by taking away the freedom of young people?
Oh yeah, no links of any kind.
https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamapediatrics/fullarticle/2808593?guestAccessKey=59506bf3-55d0-4b5d-acd9-be89dfe5c45d
https://www.cnn.com/2023/08/21/health/screen-time-child-development-delays-risks-wellness
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0885201423000242
… What, are you gonna say ‘well thats young kids, not teens’… as if effects that start at an early age don’t compound overtime with the same usage patterns?
You ever seen the videos of those kids that will scream and cry… untill the device is given back?
The pre-teens and tweens who will destroy a parent’s car, knowing they are on camera, because they confiscated their device?
Sorry, but a whole lot of the root of this issue is parents who are utterly checked the fuck out.
Unless you’re gonna propose regulating the ability to have a child, have the state raise these kids in lieu of the parents… everything else is just a bandaid.
The kind of fixes to society that would be required to address this in a non restrictive way would basically be: Fix the entire economy such that parents can afford to have time with their kids.
Mental health care availability?
Do Medicare for all first, then, maybe we can talk about that, otherwise, can’t afford it, who cares.
Youth centers?
You seen how expensive cars are, how much debt people are in for them? Who can afford to drive the kids there and back, who has the time?
Your bandaid solutions are very far from being sufficient to address what is basically the total collapse of society.
Yes, exactly, and that is why these new laws restricting social media access for people under 16 will do nothing to help the situation and take away the rights of a minority group for no gain.
That is my entire point. It does not solve the problems at all. My “bandaid fixes” aren’t proposals, they are examples of things someone would do if they actually wanted to solve the problem. The fact that those options are being ignored and the only policy being installed is censorship should tell you everything you need to know about the policy. It isn’t even INTENDED to help.
I am 100% on board with the abolition of capitalism. You are arguing with someone who already agrees with you. I have been advocating for the abolition of capitalism for over ten years.