arguing that it’s not real consent if the only alternative is shelling out yet another monthly subscription fee
Very true, and hopefully many other verdicts will follow, like "It’s not real consent if…this or that.
This dark pattern has started to spread everywhere already.
It’s not consent if there are fifty pages of legalese to read before you press accept.
I’m a big fan of TOSDR and recommend everyone check it out. It’s a site dedicated to translating TOS and EULA into English by attorneys working pro-bono. It’s amazing what you’ll find in some of those agreements.
I’m a big fan of TOSDR and recommend everyone check it out.
I did not know this existed, thank you!
Except to the extent that any such waiver is prohibited by law, you hereby waive the benefit of any provision of law known as “moral rights” or “droit moral” or any similar law in any country of the world.
Wow, I didn’t even know it was possible to waive our moral rights, some heavy shit right there.
And I had to lol when I saw it was coming from Blizzard of all places.
Edit: It’s actually a different kind of morals, not in the general public sense (Right vs Wrong) definition that we all know.
Still seems immoral though, controlling someone else’s work, as if it is your own, so thoroughly.
The escorts in the comments wildin’ out. Sheesh.
I’m a big fan of TOSDR and recommend everyone check it out.
Also, you really should make a separate post about this, to bring awareness more widely.
Go for it. I’m still pretty new to Lemmy. I don’t want it getting ignored because people think I’m a bot because of my new account. Lol
I’m not sure if many will even notice that, especially if you make a post that consists of more than a link.
Thanks for mentioning TOSDR, I’m going to have an interesting read, I guess
Second this. I stumbled across this thread, and the arguments are solid, could absolutely bring greater benefit to the community as its own post in my opinion.
fifty
I can hear PayPal giggling
“Nice data you got there. Be a shame if someone sold that for a premium”
What’s really unhinged is the amount of resources invested into gaslighting Meta does. https://about.fb.com/news/2024/01/investing-in-privacy/
They even have a “Chief Privacy Officer”. They have brainwashed entire departments into believing that Meta actually cares about privacy, it’s so terrifying. I wonder if people working there realize that, or they have simply fell for the gaslighting.
Prior to joining Meta, she was a partner working on technology issues and co-chair of Covington & Burling’s global data practice. Erin collaborates with policymakers and experts on Meta’s products and features and is deeply involved in legislative and regulatory efforts around data protection, data portability, advertising, and Al.
E.g. ex lawyer working for a firm that ensured companies could sell and use as much data as possible and defended them if they got sued or fined. Now in charge of “Privacy,” e.g. making sure Meta can sell and use as much private data as possible. It’s literal doublespeak
It’s just a Privacy Marketplace Officer
McDonalds sells salads too
They probably don’t care as long as they get paid so they can live and survive in this boring dystopia
yeah that wasn’t an excuse then, isnt an excuse now.
morality comes second to survival
and if you do something horrible, you still deserve to swing, because morality (the smart kind at least) doesn’t come from magical Fucking fairy dust, it is survival.
Facebook has caused genocides. a comparison to an as camp guard who’s drunk to within an ounce of blackout for every shift isnt so uunreasonable, and he still deserves to swing, unless he’s helping people escape.
“Just following orders” didn’t stick in 1945, it sure as hell doesn’t stick today.
I wouldn’t doubt that the CPO is trying their hardest to convince people to care but people just dont
I wonder if people working there realize that, or they have simply fell for the gaslighting.
Or they’re just like everyone else and are desperate for money to live so they sell their souls.
Please pull out of EU, it will be so much easier to convince more of my family to use signal.
They keep throwing around threats of leaving.
Do it… do it you absolute chickens.
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Even if they comply, I’d rather not have to use WhatsApp
Leaving the EU could be an option.
Meta seemed to think that was a threat that would get the EU to cave to their demands and the regulators’ response was basically
Don’t let the door hit you on the way out!
Wouldn’t that be a treat!
This is great!
I wonder how many € I can rent an EU citizenship for ;-)
Max Schrems, the Austrian activist lawyer whose 13-year legal crusade against Meta is what gradually removed those options
I wonder, does anyone know how would one go about acomplishing something like this? One of major websites here in Czech, and a major search engine, has started doing exactly the same thing - pay or agree. And I really don’t like that. Are there organizations you can contact, or do you have to have the resources to just sue them?
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