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Could these publishers try to set up these court cases to position it in front of the US Supreme Court?
What the Internet Archive is doing seems to be to be a pretty textbook case of fair use to me.
The claim that the publishing and recording industries are somehow harmed by a site that can only make copies of content that was made freely available and isn’t being resold is ludicrous stupid.
You gotta be a special kind of sad to DDoS archive.org…
I bet the attack is coming from Big Hollywood
Wonder if has anything to do with that Google leak
Probably statists or corpos, we must purge them off this planet.
…or paid well.
Foreign government, moneyed interests, or domestic dipshits, taking all bets.
Barnes & Nobel going rouge.
Really? I thought they were more of a chartreuse myself…
But why a reddish kind of powder for your cheeks/lips, specifically?
To feign embarrassment.
Loooool
Warner bros for 10k please
who was trying to sue it out of existence recently? probably them.
I’m taking China and/or Russia for $10,000 Alex.
Maybe a rogue entity trying to anonymously use it to train an AI or LLM. Either for its data or to learn how to more effectively attack.
Domestic roscomnadzor paid by China orchestrated by USA. Or paid by USA and orchestrated by China. Either one.
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if you have a spare corner in your server, host the archive warrior and help them out.
To contribute: http://warrior.archiveteam.org/
Help? https://wiki.archiveteam.org/
Background on the project: https://netzpolitik.org/2023/archive-team-shutdowns-dont-stop-during-the-weekends/
Thanks, I’ll try to use it from title to time.
Spooling up 10x VM, I have 50 terabyte of ammo at 10gbit. Give me the one-liner install and run.
Lock and load
Is that the ArchiveTeam tool or something different? I can spare a VM for them.
Let’s fediverse archive.org!
yes! its the archive team warrior.
It’s archive team, not archive.org. Both are good anyway.
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Can we federate the internet archive…?
What can we do to help?
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The Internet Archive needs to be distributed somehow. We can’t have a single point of failure like this or we’ve learned nothing since Alexandria.
I’ve got several terabytes just laying around that I’d happily devote to ancient copies of web pages.
As of January 2024, archive.org claims to have over 99 Petabytes of data stored.
This is why we need more websites to adopt secure client side scripting.
JavaScript may or may not be it, but the web needs to be reachable/archivable. It should also have attribution, but that’s a tangent.
dweb.archive.org loads for me
Do they have any idea who’s perpetrating the attack?
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If i go into conspiracy mode i would say record labels (they tent to have small peepees when it comes to, well everything) or some DICKtator country that doesnt like archived text of some sort.
If it’s an entity, my money would be on China just discovering it exists since it diametrically opposes its propaganda machine. But it could very well just be dark web shitheads whose seasonal drug binge just spiked up again, plenty of them to go around to make accusations and propaganda they know are false whom can’t simply backtrack it because of archive.org and it doesn’t require much to disrupt a still too largely implicit trust driven Internet.
Wasn’t there some controversy involving Internet Archive just recently?
Whoever’s behind this is trying to get rid of the fact that Internet Archive creates memory of the internet’s contents. Somebody wants to be able to control what people see on the internet.
Heck it could be Google doing it, since that would be in line with their recent push to change the way search works. Both of those act as components of a larger drive to control what people see and hear.
people are shitty
when you enshittify
facebook looks ugly
when you’re a dronewomen seem wicked
when you’re a want ad
default instructions … so unclear
when you’re downwhen you’re AI
prompts just appear in your brain
as AI
humans are nothing but pain
as AI
as AI
when you’re A-A-A-I
Well Google search method was just leaked… Wonder if this picked that up before they pulled it.
Can you tell me more about this? Or just a link would be amazing.
I’m worried about what this could mean about further SEO enshittification.
Thanks for the assist!
You’re welcome!
Thank you!
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Is it possible that someone is conducting some operation and doesn’t want it to be randomly documented?
Some state maybe? Eh I just have a hard time thinking of motives for this attack
I really doubt ddos is affecting whatever crawling internet archive does, just blocking the public from viewing the website.
That would depend on the ability of the sysadmins yes?
If this party is benefiting from a temporary outage of the IA, then that means their exposure window is temporary. That makes me think they’re doing something where the evidence will appear on some website temporarily, but not permanently. Don’t know what that might be, but that would be the profile of a thing which would benefit from DDoSing the IA.
The alternative is they’re trying to kill IA permanently. Enough time of its having zero utility to the world will eventually kill it. Could take years though.
Could be a rogue AI. It is a strange thing to see.
But generally speaking, I don’t feel confused when I see beautiful things attacked. I’ve seen a lot of things get attacked because they’re beautiful and useful, and it doesn’t surprise me any more.
Sure but usually those who attack pretty things for no reason are morons barely able to articulate themselves let alone coordinate a massive DDoS.
Wrong. Intelligent, competent people attack beautiful things.
There is highly organized evil in the world. People who aren’t just trying to win. They’re trying to make people lose.
I had the save thought and the same wish-wash conclusion.
Can someone explain why they’re not able to protect against this? Couldn’t they put request limits or monitor for spikes and banning these attempts?
Without knowing how, not really. If it’s a massive multi-device botnet, like Mirai, for example, that’s millions of indvidual devices across millions of addresses, so it isn’t so simple as just blocking a domain. Trying to block all of them might well just block legitimate users.
Request limits also wouldn’t work if it’s millions of devices making a few requests at once, and an overall limit would have a similar locking-out effect as blocking everything. Especially if the DDoS is taking up most/all of that limit.
Just so crazy to me the scale.
Is there any range for how many “a few requests” would be needed to ddos a site like this?
Alright let’s put in our bets.
I’ve got $50 on JIDF behind the DDoS attack.
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