• Treczoks@lemmy.world
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    They were waiting for an excuse for a long time. If it had not been Kirk, they would have something else sooner or later. If they get violent, it is not because of this shooting, but because violence was part of the idea from day one.

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    I fucking hate this website sometimes.

    Yeah guys, high profile assassinations and quickly escalating political violence is just a distraction from files that supposedly prove what we all already know about Trump.

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      It wouldn’t surprise me if GOP killed their own political pawns to at least delay the Epstein files debacle and their own pedophile in chief being implicated in them.

      Probably wanting to delay it for as long as possible until the dude croaks during a live interview.

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    these are the people who call for violence over corporate logos, M&Ms, and razor blades. they’re always calling for violence, and we’re always giving them the mic.

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    Kirk wasn’t even a politician, he was a talking head. And not even an A-lister like Shapiro or Jones. These guys are looking for an excuse to become violent and it didn’t take much.

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    Heh remember when a black guy got elected president and certain people literally burned effigies of him?

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      Remember when the one guy who was whiter than Trump wouldn’t go along with their coup and he had to dodge his own secret service agents in order to survive?

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    They’ve been getting more and more violent for 9 years, so I really don’t see how this is a change. They literally tried to overthrow the government.

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    …these fucking people.

    Just shut up and go away already. Just move to Russia since you like the taste of dictator balls so much.

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      I think Russia has little to nothing to do with this. Just as it’s a common meme that the left is internally extremely divided, so is the right. There are so many groups, and they hate each other almost as much as they hate the left, in general.

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          100% they are. You can tell in almost every post about going after Dems. Just bots stir the fire up. These MAGA fucks fall for it everytime.

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            I’m sure many of them are bots (as has been documented and proven on other platforms) but I assume they’re mixed in with the actual people that happen to agree with the bots or get swayed by the bots’ takes.

            Don’t underestimate the stupidity of the average flesh-and-blood American. (And before anyone says it, yes, I know there is stupidity elsewhere, but I happen to be an American, so I don’t feel bad about criticizing them).

            I try not to get into the habit of assuming that every braindead comment or post comes from a bot (though they may be indistinguishable). I am very aware of the bot/paid trolls issue, but I also assume there’s the possibility of at least a non-zero share of the firehose of Internet stupidity which is generated by the sausage-like appendages of someone who is very much alive that I am forced to share a country with, and that they may typing those things in earnest without irony.

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              exactly. isn’t there a common saying “don’t assume malevolence where stupidity suffices as an explanation”?

              people really are just dumb, largely. it could be perfectly well that that already explains the conflicts.

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        Russian trolls are everywhere. I would be more surprised if they weren’t involved. They love to feed the fire.

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    It wasn’t war when one Dem politician was killed, one was attempted. And a gubernatorial assassination was attempted?

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      Or how about when Nancy Pelosi’s husband was beaten nearly to death with a fucking hammer.

      Anyone else remember how they reacted to that? That the guy was his gay lover? The constant mocking and wishing harm on Nancy?

      What really pisses me off is that the media just goes along with it. Every fucking time.

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    This is just a lone wolf. Hell, there isn’t even remotely a pattern of violence aimed at Confederate pundits. There is not even stochastic terrorism aimed at Confederates.

    Who the fuck do these sister-fuckers even want vengeance on? We don’t even know who the shooter is yet and there are no prominent figures on the left who are doing the stochastic terrorism thing (unlike much of the right).

    For all we know, it’s Charlie’s jilted gay lover that shot him.

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        Your post here will be described as a manifesto by police too, which they will remove from internet before press conference so no one can check their bs.

        Never keep a journal.

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      All the previous shooters have been disillusioned republicans. The guy they arrested is older and white so… We will see in the morning

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          Time to do some police work. Let’s see, who had motivation? Oh, like half the country? Jeez. Well what about opportunity? Oh, he was at a college, outdoors, surrounded by thousands of people, engaging in provoking “debate”, and there was no real security set up? Yikes. And no credible witness accounts? Fuck. Well, send somebody over to the Altoona McDonald’s and see if we can pin it on some Italian guy.

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        They released the guy in custody, shot came from a rooftop, dark clothing, is all they released. Cctv everywhere on campus.

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          Won’t matter. Colleges are so huge with so many blind spots. If the shooter knew the area they’re gone. Ironically the huge spy apparatus feeds to Utah but there probably weren’t satellites or anything overhead they can use.

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      Bring it. Most of these chuckle fucks aren’t trained in gun safety while 2nd amendment Liberals are.

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    So, if the shooter turns out to be some Nazi shitbag, these right wingers are going to war with them right? Of course not, because they don’t actually care about what happened to Kirk, and have no problem with violence happening (as evidenced by all the goddamn violence they are always doing). They just want to take advantage of an opportunity to do more violence against what they perceive as the other team. They’re sociopaths with no moral framework other than self-enrichment, self-aggrandizement, and ends justifying means.

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      Best case scenario for planet Earth is if they find definitive proof that Kirk’s assassination was jointly ordered by Putin and Netanyahu.

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          Unfortunately for the world, even though Trump has been actively sabotaging America’s place in the world, we’re still in the position where stupid shit like this still involves the rest of the world.

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            Unfortunately you’re correct but so far we Australians have made it loud and clear that trumpism isn’t wanted here by the majority. There are more than enough cookers here as it is.

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              for the record, it’s not just the US turning to fascism. lots of places are going that way, even if we’re ahead of the curve. Australia is… less so than most, so yeah, I’ll celebrate that much with you… but… please stay vigilant.

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              You are locking down the internet though. Cultibating a masterbaterbase and connecting ip and likeness where lower level government, hackers, groups can also access everything you have done online.

              You are heading to the same place unless you get a populist reform alternative to status quo plutocracy polits of both parties to be supplanted with far right running as reform with help from the us, russia, and their constellations of super rich ideologue pricks.

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                We’re locking down social media. I don’t want my kids anywhere near it so I don’t really worry about that.

                The fear mongering about it is high though but if you read the details it’s not that bad. Just don’t use Google or apple. Find new search engines and don’t use social media. Social media is not exactly a necessity

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                  In keeping the kids off of social media you are connecting everyone’s IP to their face and or ID however. Probably in a way that not only these lower level political politicians would have access to it and not just the National Security types, but that would also make it vulnerable to organized groups like hackers and foreign intelligence agencies.

                  Do you really think this is about protecting the kids?

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              Well Lachlan Murdoch just won control of his father’s media empire, get ready for some heavy doses of propaganda and Sky News to take the obnoxious levels up to eleven.

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      I’m confident the shooter is someone to the right. The shot can only be done by someone who really loves their rifles. They must be a second amendment supporter.