They’ll be doctored like hell, I’m sure of it.
They release all the files, except those that concern “national security”.
Guess what people at the FBI did over the last months? Classify Epstein files…
The list:
Don(REDACTED)
(REDACTED)ump
D(REDACTED)
Sleepy Joe
President Tr(REDACTED)
Bubba
Tru(REDACTED)
The Libs
(REDACTED)ald Trump
Crooked Hillary
Barack HUSSEIN Obama
(REDACTED)mp
Eric Trump
I think the LA times wrote a piece about this in the past day or two, the doctoring was done when Trump took office and had the Justice Department redact all references to him “as a private citizen” which is some bullshit. But look at what’s already come through, thousands of pages with hundreds of references to Trump, unredacted and incriminating, I wonder if the idiots he hired to scour through the files actually did it, or just cashed their checks and ran like the rest of Elon’s DOGE bullshit.
It’s safe to assume anything redacted is Trump. They have the burden of proof to say it’s not.
“It’s not Trump.”
“Okay, prove it!”
“UM… oh look, a squirrel!”
If only it were that easy. A conversation with one of them would go something more like this:
“It’s not Trump.”
“Okay, prove it!”
“I don’t need to because THIS IS AMERICA, and it’s INNOCENT UNTIL PROVEN GUILTY.”
“Like the people arrested by ICE?”
“THEY WERE CRIMINALS!”
“Even the 93% without criminal records?”
“THAT’S FAKE NEWS, LIBTARD”
The thing is, enough people have seen the files, including Biden era prosecutors, Trump 1 prosecutors, victims, former and current FBI, etc. who can testify to the fact that evidence has been altered.
So this is the bill that until last week, the majority didn’t even want to vote on, until the new AZ rep won her special election and makes them? Then it turns out they (almost) all agreed with her anyway? Amazing how things work in Congress.
no, the government was shutdown until recently and then they were able to hold session and confirm her. then trump said to release the files so thats why theyre all on board.
my tin foil hat theory is they shut down the government to buy time to doctor the files lol as soon as that was done the democrat cucks caved in and they opened it back up and are now releasing
Once they knew they couldn’t delay it any longer, the flipped real quick. It either means they’re confident Trump’s name has been removed or they’re getting out ahead of the inevitable fallout so they can pretend like they cared the whole time.
Almost all, yes. I read there was one no, any idea who and why?
Clay Higgins (R-LA), but I hadn’t heard of him before today so can’t say much about him.
After all this time, how do we knew what is authentic or complete?
It will be pretty obvious. If Trump is implicated, it’s authentic.
I believe there’s another source of documents. Comparisons could be telling.
The only no vote came from Rep. Clay Higgins, a Louisiana Republican who is a fervent supporter of Trump. He also chairs a subcommittee that initiated a subpoena on the Justice Department for the Epstein files.
Not surprising given his viscous performance 3 months ago trying to prevent a motion to release the files from even being brought forth in the House Oversight Committee.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h1snbEmwVK8
Actually only 1 no vote is quite surprising.
He also chairs a subcommittee
One of the big things we need fixed is that shit just being based on seniority.
When the person from the controlling party with the longest time on that specific committee is defacto chair, people will never relinquish a committee seat. They’ll hold one they don’t actually care about for decades blocking others because some day they might get chair and get bonus “donations” from whatever industry you’re supposed to reign in.
But Trump said he wanted them released! (Presumably because they’ve been scrubbed of everyone except Democrats) Why is he going against Dear Leader?
He must have misread the legislation. Stupid mundane details.
Rep. Clay Higgins
I guarantee you he’s Eskimo Brothers with Roy Moore
My guess is that they decided that since it wasn’t going away they might as well get it fully into the news cycle now and the year until midterms will be enough time for it to fade away or be thoroughly MAGAtized so that it won’t be a voting issue.
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Guaranteed this gets hung up in Senate, on Trump’s desk or because of the DOJ’s ‘investigation’ and they try to never release it.
I’d like to buy the “blocked by on-going investigation” square, please. It’s so obvious.
That was basically his excuse with his tax returns right? I wouldn’t be shocked in the least if this is his next move
Yeah but he was lying about that completely, there was no “audit”. He didn’t want people to know how much of a tax cheat he is. Now he has the power (he shouldn’t but sadly does) to start an actual DOJ investigation. We’ll see.
Supposedly the bill is specifically about removing this excuse, because it’s been used in the past with other prominent cases too.
I have to print all new bingo cards AGAIN?
We all do, I filled mine up and all I won was a lousy covid mask and a gentrified neighborhood I can’t afford to live in anymore.
and a gentrified neighborhood I can’t afford to live in anymore.
Gunshots at 2am and random shed fires should make quick work of that problem. I hear those have a way of lowering property value.
Leaving a few broken down vehicles in your front yard is a more legal way, I guess.
It’s time to start playing 4D bingo
I think it’s more likely that they’ll just release all the files except for those which mention Trump and his allies, or edit out such references and pass it off as the genuine article.
Redacted. Yeah. Bondi will bookend it with “no collusion” so all the MAGA troglodytes can chatter how innocent the demented rapist fraud is.
Yeah, my guess is either they found a different way to never release anything, or they’ll pass some random junk as the files in question. That’s the reason Johnson suddenly changed his mind on allowing the House to do their job, and why Republicans voted yes on the bill.
I did hear an NPR interview with Ro Khanna (member of Congress representing California 17, discharge petition signatory) today, where whether he had concerns about the authenticity of the files to be released, and he did say that he did. When asked further how he could be sure that the files so released are complete and accurate, he said that it would be dumb to attempt a cover-up or incomplete release, because many of the victims’ lawyers have already seen the files and thus would know if the released files are incomplete, inaccurate, or inauthentic.
That being said, I do not expect Trump and his crack(pot) team of advisers to have the metal acuity to judge the probability of a successful cover-up correctly.
Ken Klippenstein agrees, but for a different reason. He’s examined the bill’s language and thinks transparency was doomed from the start:
I thought the same but amazingly the Senate passed it easily. Trump says he’ll sign it. We’ll see.
He will. The wording of the language is that they release anything unclassified… So then Bondi classifies everything.
That’ll be tough. It’s likely worded to prevent the release of classification protecting the names of victims or other people involved who aren’t criminally involved, rather than all of it.
If you’ve seen what was in the last batch of Epstein emails/texts, it shouldn’t be a surprise. That’s the shit they leaked? What are they holding back? My god, how many Obama staffers was Epstein buddies with? How many Israeli MPs? Put the whole of Lower Manhattan and half the Hamptons on the god damned sex offender registry. Dude was everywhere.
The man is absolutely radioactive. Never even mind the Republicans, there’s zero chance Chuck Schumer wants anything else getting released. Epstein could bring down everyone in DC over 70.
Epstein could bring down everyone in DC over 70.
Stop I can only get so erect.
So did they.
there’s zero chance Chuck Schumer wants anything else getting released
His voting says otherwise. What utter bullshit. You can literally say anything about him and then just demand people accept as true. Sound familiar?
My god, how many Obama staffers was Epstein buddies with?
Why the fuck would Republicans want to hold that back?
Cool!
Feels like its the DOJ stopping it due to on going investigations. Its the easiest way for them to show they made a “good faith” effort to get stuff out but showing nothing.
I highly recommend Heather Cox Richardson’s near-daily coverage of current politics, and The Files.
From a historian’s perspective, she seems to think that Trump’s sudden reversal after fighting tooth and nail to avoid this release is because he realizes he’s lost control of the House republicans on this issue as their voters are also frothing at the mouth to get these files released. And, that if he’s so afraid of what’s in the FBI’s complete set after the horror of what has already been released, what the hell is actually in there? She also seems to think that if the bill gets to his desk, he’ll all but have to release them, but personally I don’t see him ever caving to that. He could release them by executive order today if he actually wanted the files released.
Here’s my take: I find it pretty incredible that people don’t seem to understand the depths of Trumps depravity when he extorted our allies, sicked a hillbilly mob on the capital, used The Office of the President to hawk merch, and openly mocked American democracy, but grooming underage girls is where we all collectively draw the line. The mountains of evidence of his extreme criminality, his appointment of white and Christian nationalists, and his alliances with America’s sworn enemies melting down our government? Water off a duck’s back apparently.
I’m all for whatever it takes to dismantle the Trump regime, but I seriously doubt undoctored evidence ever sees the light of day. And if it does, he will be dead long before he ever sees justice for it. But, if it FINALLY sours voters enough to not vote for him in the next election, I’ll take it.
From a historian’s perspective, she seems to think that Trump’s sudden reversal after fighting tooth and nail to avoid this release is because he realizes he’s lost control of the House republicans on this issue as their voters are also frothing at the mouth to get these files released. And, that if he’s so afraid of what’s in the FBI’s complete set after the horror of what has already been released, what the hell is actually in there? She also seems to think that if the bill gets to his desk, he’ll all but have to release them, but personally I don’t see him ever caving to that. He could release them by executive order today if he actually wanted the files released.
Man, that’s a whole lot of words for "they’re going to heavily edit the files to only show Democratic party member names and use them as a political weapon.
That’s because it says more than just that.
While I don’t doubt that, one of the things that Richardson’s coverage does is ground my heavy pessimism: Despite Trump’s corruption, his fascist network still must operate within the bounds of the American government and voting public’s opinion, just like the early Nazi party and other elected fascist movements.
The trove of evidence is hopefully still protected by standards of federal record keeping that can reveal tampering and based on what has already been released, the regime’s ability to control that evidence seems lacking. They will no doubt play up the parts that look bad for the opposition, but if there’s a big photo of Donald J. Trump blowing Bill Fucking Clinton with the travel and financial records to put them in the same place for a weekend, how are they gonna redact that?
And from all accounts, it’s sounding like whatever is in there is Chernobyl level heat.
his fascist network still must operate within the bounds of the American government and voting public’s opinion, just like the early Nazi party and other elected fascist movements.
It didn’t stop the Nazis. He’s to a different outcome this time.
but grooming underage girls is where we all collectively draw the line.
No doubt all the other things you mentioned would make any rational, remotely ethical person turn against Trump. But this is worse than all of them. It’s almost impossible to defend or wish away. Virtually EVERYONE agrees these crimes are heinous and deserve thorough prosecution.
he will be dead long before he ever sees justice for it.
As much as I would like to see that, the ship sailed when we reelected him. If Harris had won, his other trials would’ve continued. He was obviously guilty in the documents case. Now he’ll probably die in office or shortly after leaving.
At this point, I’ll settle for him resigning (impossible, I know) or being impeached.
But only after they’ve been scrubbed of any mention of “allies”.
The latest batch of released files has included some of the laziest and most haphazard redactions I’ve seen since Bush was on his way out in '08. These Congresscritters aren’t wasting staff time on cleaning up their info-dumps. It’s all just going out the door every Friday.
The good news is that this admin is really bad at redactions.
Next stop, senate, then Bubba blow job machine, then DOJ. First step completed wooo! /s this is going to be “it’s the small world” ride that doesn’t end.
The House AND the Senate passed it already? Damn wasn’t expecting that.
Other news we’re following:
- Trump dismisses 2018 killing of journalist Jamal Khashoggi: The U.S. president gave a warm welcome to Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salmanof Saudi Arabia, his first visit since the Washington Post reporter was killed by Saudi agents. When the crown prince was asked about Khashoggi, Trump interjected, saying, “Things happen.”
Jesus fucking Chr- *deep breath*
Why do they HATE Trump? Even though Trump is NOT in the Epstein Files and Didnt KNOW the guy and Releasing them would PROVE that Trump Doesn’t have Sex with Children?
Narrator: And yet in spite of it all, those file never were released so the far right pedo class could be protected
The latest traunch of emails has already clipped the wings of Larry Summers, Michael Wolff, Peggy Siegal, and Kathryn Ruemmler. I don’t think its a coincidence that Prince Andrew was getting the heave-ho weeks in advance.
The Epstein Files are leaking like a sieve. By the time we get a full accounting, I’m curious to know what’ll even be left to reveal.
