Oh, I shove it in all the time, sweetie.
Yeah, I just stopped paying attention altogether. The sequel trilogy is worse than the Holiday Special lol. I saw Rogue One and I was bored to tears. The Outlaws game requires an EA account to play. Star Wars is dead to me.
Red Letter Media’s final thoughts on the state of Star Wars were pretty insightful: It’s become a container with a very specific aesthetic that Disney can pile an infinite number of things into: multi-quadrant science fiction blockbusters, preschool cartoons, carnival rides, political dramas, kids adventures, whatever.
It’s since stopped being a finite thing anyone can love anymore. When something becomes everything, it loses distinctness. That distinctness, whatever it was, is what early fans originally fell in love with.
Of course, those original objects still exist, but you have to specify them. You’re an “original trilogy” fan or an Andor fan or the made-for-TV Ewok movies fan†, but saying you’re a Star Wars fan is basically meaningless now. And for people who proudly wore that mantle, through eyerolls and ridicule, that’s a genuine loss.
† Teek from Battle for Endor has a posse.
but saying you’re a Star Wars fan is basically meaningless now. And for people who proudly wore that mantle, through eyerolls and ridicule, that’s a genuine loss.
I remember explaining something similar to my partner (not about Star Wars) and about how this isn’t about “gatekeeping” (though it can become gatekeeping) but rather about this loss. I can’t remember exactly what it was about now, but it was some aspect of nerd culture that didn’t exactly become mainstream, but rather morphed to become mainstream.
“Want to sell a lot? Just brand it Star Wars!”
The motivation for making a new show should be “We want to tell an amazing new story set within the Star Wars universe” but it’s actually “We want to make loads of money, therefore our new thing is going to be Star Wars.”
Disney Star Wars: MCU.
;_; Star Wars legends fan, I will continue to resent Disney forever for blighting one of my favorite franchises. But yeah new “Star Wars” content has ceased to excite me. When the acolyte came out and I saw the reviews I was completely unsurprised.
Most of these nerd fandoms are desperately throwing money at endless inept projects until it finally gets less shitty.
There’s so much SW stuff that is complete trash.
I gave up on star Wars way back when Disney decided to rub their shit all over it.
For all their issues, at least the Prequels tried to do something new and bring a completely new style and story to SW.
The Sequels just feel like someone wanted to rewrite the OT because they thought they had better ideas.
The prequels were super rich in world building, good stuff.
If Spielberg hadn’t convinced George to do everything himself, just imagine what kinds of stories we could have had…
I’ve actually come to dread when they add a sequel to a good movie.
For every Terminator two there’s a Phantom menace.
I enjoyed the P.M., cool world building and lore going on. The new shit however has nothing new or cool.
For all their flaws at least the pt expanded the universe in a coherent and believable way.
I don’t care if it’s shit. I’ll pirate and watch every new show or a movie once, because that’s what I grew up with and that’s what comforts me
Fuck giving money to Disney though
Pirating out of spite is cool. Love that.
I stopped caring after the second trilogy, tbh. And even that, IIRC having watched them quite a few years after they were released.
It stopped being any good after “Episode VI”. And before it, it was just a kids fairy tale in a space-themed Trenchcoat.
It always was a fairytale?
There are good and bad fairy tales. For me, Star Wars never was one of the first ones…
Never gave a fuck never will, I even dont care if matrix 2 is good or any remake
Star Wars isn’t good, Andor and Mandalorian S01 are good.
the only redeemable quality the mandalorian has is the werner herzog cameo
Mandalorian was hammy. I think people reeeeally want to pretend there’s something left in that wrung out dish rag of a franchise when there really isn’t.
That Christmas special is pretty tight if you live somewhere with legal weed.
Add Rogue One, as well
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And both of those definitely got the “popular series that drags on way too long” treatment.
Andor was only two seasons though??
Mandalorian is definitely my guilty pleasure. I just like the setting so much. Book of Boba however fucked up hard, besides the Tusken Raiders arc, I keep looking if there is a fan edit of just the Tusken Raider scenes and haven’t found anything yet. It is really annoyiny how they had to interweave it with the Mandalorian.
Mando? Yes. Andor? No.
Andor S02 was great tho?
Well, “dragging on way too long” is the main difference between a movie and a TV-show.
I guess everyone has their own cutoff point. I like works that are longer than movies but don’t go on for a bajillion seasons, especially if they actually seem like they want to tell a story. For me, it doesn’t even matter if the series is consistently good, I just don’t want to watch that much content for one show. Plus the longer it goes on without reaching a conclusion, the more likely it is that it’s just going to get canceled.
I suppose Andor doesn’t really deserve to get lumped in with the likes of Mandalorian here, considering that it managed to finish its story in two seasons.
The original movie was kitsch but at least it was original. The second one was just a money grab and should be universally hated for the shit cliffhanger ending. The 3rd one was just a remake of the first one. Everything after that was shit.
Loved the 4,5,6. Then I warched the “1” and thought what a shit film. Stopped after half of the 2, never looked back.
I remember watching parts of the original trilogy and thinking they were interesting but were ultimately full of that boring interpersonal drama stuff. When the prequels came along, they really got me into the world building aspect of the story and gave me a love for Star Wars as a whole. After that and getting older, I gained a greater appreciation for the older films as well, even though I’m still not much a fan of interpersonal drama stuff (and, perhaps unsurprisingly, movies in general.)
From what I understand, the sequel trilogy doesn’t fit very well with the established world building, and is iffy on the interpersonal drama as well, so I don’t have much desire to watch them.
I don’t care about spinoff X on IPTV service Y.
