• shrimpgirl@lemmy.cafe
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    2 days ago

    I really don’t understand why new consoles are even necessary at this point. With each new generation, the differences are less and less.

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    6 days ago

    Start by making some content for the systems you already fucking have. My ps5 gets closer to facebook marketplace every day.

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    7 days ago

    This is great news for the video game community as even Sony and Microsoft admit consoles have nowhere else to go. They are already maxed out mini PC’s. So without huge graphics cards, you will see ZERO actual improvements on a 2028 console.

    Save your money.

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      6 days ago

      I dont want consoles to “get better” i want them to do more.

      kinect was great and they killed it

      1v100 was great and is kill

      360 was promising us a virtual economy where pseudo-modders could make skins and sell them and they decided no

      mixxer seemed great and is kill

      picture in picture was great for waiting for games with really low player count but is kill

      where’s WoW

      they stopped shipping headsets with xbox and now voice chat is basically dead.

      basically everyone has phones now but theres next to no uses other than jackbox and dance game

      the avatars were pretty sweet, a nice cute MTX-fueled self-insertion gimmick.

      These are jsut xbox related because peasantry. I could go on and on if I put some thought into it, and what’s worse is that a lot of my gripes there ACTUALLY EXISTED. They saw it could be done, did it, then just said “lol no”. I dont know what game theyre playing, just creating previous work to hoard patents or some shit, but we’ve got perverted by graphics over the ages.

      We marveled at shiny graphics/polygon count/draw distance/objects on screen because it was the most surface-level, obvious, in-your-face evidence of improvements. Nobody but tech enthusiasts really care about it. The big improvements we actually gave a shit about are the quality of life features, control schemes and shit.

      Goldeneye 007 on the N64 was considered a masterpiece, and is still looked on some 30 years later with nostalgia about the good old days. Go play it if you get a chance its near unplayable because the controls are weird. The dated graphics will be jarring but theyre not what irks you.

      Stardew Valley is a straight rip-off of Harvest Moon, but go play a HM game from before SV. So much of it is janky and weird.

      They’ll be saying theres nowhere left to go because computing power has basically plateaud but there is so much more room for improvement and innovation.

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        6 days ago

        I dont want consoles to “get better” i want them to do more.

        Exactly. They could give us a built-in light gun and a steering wheel, and see what indie game developers do with them!

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          Then sell controllers without the features for a cheaper, get onboard experience (I’m still pissed about the kinect, I liked the idea of everyone having it, only for them to then sell consoles without it 🙃)

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    6 days ago

    Good honestly, we don’t need another generation yet. Constraints are good for innovation.

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    7 days ago

    Console gaming now is stupid. The Xbox and PlayStation are both just x86_64 PCs with different colored plastic shells.

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      7 days ago

      The PS5 base security keys got leaked, it’s going to be a full fledge PC once the modders get to work. Might be the cheapest way to get ram now hah.

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        7 days ago

        It will definitely boost PS5 sales. Sony loves to boast about PlayStation 2 being the best selling console in history but they conveniently leave out the reason. It’s because there are modchips and even software jailbreaks for the console. It’s why it sold super well during the end of its lifetime in low and middle income regions.

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          Actually the reason is it was the cheapest DVD player for ages

          PS3 was also the cheapest blueray player at the time, but the weird architecture impacting game availability and lower demand for blueray movies prevented it from gaining the same popularity

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          I used to refuse change at the bakery when I was a kid and would instead pick something out of the stack of pirated PS2 games. Something like two US dollars? Three? Not an egregious sum for my child self to waste every so often. The death of the on the ground piracy culture of the third world really sucks, although those beautifully dodgy TV boxes give me hope for humanity.

          Those were the fucking days eh? You either catch a movie on TV or in the cinema, or you get lucky with whatever they’ve got on random counters in random shops. Remember watching schlock? Was that bad for culture? Was it really that bad?

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        7 days ago

        I’ll be converting my PS5 to a Steam Machine once the masters have done their work.

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          7 days ago

          I’d also love to have a normal PS5 partition and a Linux one. This would be the best of both worlds, but I think I’m dreaming too much😇

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          Valve’s reaction to this news in relation to Steam Machine: Fuck.

          Granted that is millions of new potential steam game players.

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            I’m guessing that the direct profit from a Steam Machine (i.e. the hardware) is a pittance compared to the profit from the game sales that it will generate.

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      7 days ago

      The original Xbox even had a hard drive and DVD ROM player connected by IDE cables so it didn’t change much.

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      Indeed and two years of advancement for steamboxes / Linux gaming distros will be the nail in the coffin. These are the last of their kind.

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    7 days ago

    Good. Let’s make everyone hate ai so we turn against it and regress back to a better time.

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      I don’t think PS5 and XSX versions will be affected at all.

      But since us on PC have to wait for that release AND the double dip on the PS6/New Xbox - we’re going to waiting until 2030 and beyond now.

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        At this point I’m pretending that the game hasn’t even been announced yet.

        I admit I bought an XBOX 360 for GTA V so I wouldn’t have to wait for PC, but TBF you could get a used 360 for about $60 because the next gen was just around the corner. I’m not seeing any PS5s selling for anywhere near that cheap, so I won’t be playing GTA VI until it releases on PC this time around.

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    There won‘t really be a next Xbox. I think Microsoft made that very clear. It‘s all cloud gaming for AAA from here on out.

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      Do enough people even like the added latency of cloud gaming? And is that going to be tolerated for popular games like COD, Fortnite, or Valorant?

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        Probably. Its most likely going to look like the steam machine except it’ll run on win11with an Xbox gui instead of linux. Probably be quite locked down in regards to software and store access as well.

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      Maybe they’ll do that but here in New Zealand I’m not going to be streaming on my shared 100mbps connection. There are 10 people sharing the line it’s not going to work for cloud gaming.

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      Exactly! The good part of such a shortage is that old tech can stay relevant for far longer and devs will have to optimize more.

      Sometimes, therés a lot of good in a bad situation.

      I want great games, not necessarly more demanding ones. The Last of Us 2 is still the most beautiful game I’ve played and I don’t really need more if it means getting new hardware.

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        Yeah and like, we’re reaching diminishing returns with how good things can even look. It already looks incredible, let’s work on making it look that way with less processing power and file sizes now. You don’t need another more powerful machine for that.

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    Good for me. It’s almost like how all the Switch Pro rumors became Switch 2 rumors and people being in denial it could be 2 because that’d be too weak in the year of release. Switch 2 is fine. Designs at this point are advanced. No sudden switching to 2030 GPU/CPU designs. You’ll get AMD 2027 designs in 2030 and budget gaming PCs in 2030+ will feast because of that