• tresspass@lemmy.world
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    6 hours ago

    I’d find Germany less responsible for WWIII if maybe they ya know didn’t support a genocidal terrorist ethnostate at the expense of domestically suppressing speech calling out that foreign policy, but I guess it just be like that sometimes

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    11 hours ago

    Except Germany keeps delivering weapons to Israel, gives them diplomatic and political coverage, and apparently even has planes in the air to support Israeli fighter jets in their attacks on Iran.

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      11 hours ago

      you think WW3 is starting because of Israel? Can I also get under the rock your been living under, must be nice there.

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        Israel is not only at the very center of the world (look at maps: it’s very much the geographic center. That’s why we call it middle east.)

        it’s also reckless and like a dying star, a supernova. it blows up without regards to casualties. it is a very dangerous situation that we’re in indeed.

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          I dont see the potential for global conflict.

          Israel and Iran have been trading blows for decades now. Some direct, many indirect. It’s a regional conflict, and regional it will remain.

          Every now and then, Israel acts to prevent Iran from becoming a nuclear power – and honestly, we’re all the better for it, the world does not need another set of religious crazies to have nukes.

          (That being said, is Netanyahu a deplorable asshat? Absolutely yes – but for different reasons)

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        Israel is a prominent member of the global western capitalistic hegemony, and they are escalating tensions with their genocide and attack on Iran. I wouldn’t say they’re the only ones responsible, but they do share a large portion of the blame.

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        Yeah sounds like you’re under deep rock for so long, you mistake the sky for an even larger rock.

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    They are complicit in supporting and arming Israel as well as supporting the genocide.

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    Germans when they realise WW2 was caused by an man from Austria

    Germans when they realise WW1 was caused by the assassination of the archduke of Austria and the subsequent declaration of war from Austria-Hungary on Serbia.

    You could say Austria is responsible, but Hitler was in Germany, so WW2 is kinda our problem…

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    Well if they didn’t genocide all those millions of innocent Jews 80 years ago, western countries wouldn’t accept the invasion and genocide in Palestine over the last decades

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    They have a big share in the current state of affairs, whether it is the genocide of the Palestinian people or the complete failure of Europe. the German state hasn’t changed a fucking bit

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      I think Germany stopped invading Poland and killing Jews in gas chambers. So I’d say Germany changed at least a little bit.

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        I’m being hyperbolic, but whenever tensions hit the EU members will just go back to their old ways, the idea European states will somehow unify in face of a threat is absolutely laughable, no Belgian soldier will ever take orders from a polish sergeant.

        When the question was asked of “How will we pay for covid” The dutch gov was instantly saying they “won’t pay for those lazy southerners”

        The EU alliance always was about monetary gain, not building an actual coherent political entity.

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    Germany is the second largest provider of weapons to Israel, and a huge longtime consumer of Russian gas, this is a tonedeaf as hell meme.

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          That DE40 has not been going up since the terrorist act by the US of blowing up NS2 and the ‘sanctions’ on themselves making them buy wildly expensive fracking gas from the US.
          EU can’t compete and their economy is dying.
          BASF, Thyssen-Krupp,etc… all closing down shop and reorganising.
          A nice fertile ground for creating more AfD fascists, exactly the same as in the 1930’s.
          And again the prospect of getting trashed on the eastern front just like their opa’s.

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          Please dont mistake the German government for the entirety of Germany. I would say, that the support for Israel has massively decreased, due to their genocide. Our government however, does not fucking care.

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      They also ditched nuclear energy and stayed over reliant on russian fossil fuel, funding the Russian war machine

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        The nuclear rods in Europe are mainly made with Uranium from Kazakhstan processed in Russia.

        The German failure was not expanding renewables. Getting out of nuclear energy is geopolitically and financially sound.

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          Not when coal and gas fill the void. They can get fuel rods from France, Canada, China. Hell Germany could just refine their own, Niger is looking for trading partners.

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        These nuclear energy zealots are spilling over from r/europe with the same stupid arguments

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          Nuclear energy was the answer between like 1950 and 2010. But the fact that China isnt going all in on nuclear despite having optimal conditions; central planning allows them to predict maximum prices for materials and labor available 5-10 years in advance, the scale allows them to produce reactors more efficiently with better investment in tooling than any other country, and being the workshop of the world ensures higher demand than any other country. They are at <5% nuclear right now and expect <10% by 2035.

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        Now we’re funding the US regime war machine after they blew up NS2 and ‘sanctions’.
        Paying extortion prices for dirty US fracking gas that make companies uncompetitive and causing the economy to collapse.
        The US leeches always profit from war, same as in WW2.

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      Always on the wrong side of history.
      Not a coincidence that fascism and zionism are twins