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    29 minutes ago

    I like the idea of red and blue splitting up. Let’s see how long those shit holes take to fester and rot from within. Red states are nothing but a drain. Fuck em.

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      Red states already suck and Texas oil isn’t about to solve that problem for the rest of them. They’d crumble immediately.

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        Unfortunately, the hypothetical blue nation would have a food problem, especially if some red parts of blue states go over. Both such countries would have serious issues.

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    Well, looks like Putin’s 4D chess worked even better than he could have anticipated. The US want to dissolve themselves now. Crazy how the world changed in just 10 years.

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    How would it work exactly? It’s not like most people could just up and move. Unless you do it by id system. Blue you get out in a national healthcare type system. Red you keep paying the health insurance companies.

    Blue vs blue crime, blue judge. Red vs red, red judge. Red vs blue crime the criminal to go face whatever the victim or plantiff is.

    But as far as a leading president, no idea how that would work

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    Even better. Slice it into three parts. East, west and middle.

    East and west can be one and middle can be on its own.

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    Do it.

    Blue states can grab the popcorn and watch red states cannibalize themselves.

    But conservatives will use the federal government to go to war to keep the blue states…because they need us.

    We don’t need them.

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          Of course, eastern California might split off to go red since that half of the state is pretty solidly red…

          To the extent you have some food production, that population might be mighty grumpy at being more unambiguously a political minority.

          It wouldn’t be pretty…

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          Food is one of those ”strategic reserve” things, because you can’t just build farms and have them immediately start cranking out staple foods like a factory. The fed keeps strategic reserves of things that take time to create, but which have major short-term needs. A farm will take weeks or months to start producing, and farmers plan their crops literal years in advance.

          And that “farms are only a few weeks away from producing” announcement is a cold comfort when people are hungry right now. Most of society is only about three days of missed meals away from violence.

          The sad reality is that the south/central US produces a lot of food. Sure, there are other areas that food could be produced, but it’s not already doing so, meaning it would be useless in anything except the long-term. But in order to reach the long-term, you first need to deal with the short-term. And the short-term in this scenario has a lot of people going hungry.

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            dude, California is the top producer of agricultural products in the United States, producing 13% of the entire US agricultural output.

            Illinois, Washington, etc up there at the top of the list as well.

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    I agree. I don’t care what her reasoning is.

    A Pacific States of America would be able to effectively defend itself and would be one of the largest economies in the world. It would be able to make progress on climate change and would have better corporate and banking governance. It would be more accountable to its citizens. It could feed its own citizens through agriculture.

    Let the Northeast split off as well. Form a mutual defense pact with the Pacific States. Ban propagandist media like Fox News in those countries and leave the citizens of the remaining so-called United States to let themselves be manipulated into poverty and serfdom.

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    Split up the USA… who would benefit from that most? Ah yes Russia and China. As if any more proof that the US government are assets.

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      Regardless of what would benefit anyone, a (supposedly) democratic country cannot continue having such a massive divide between its government and its citizens. Something has to give.

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    “it’s not safe for anyone”… Because you’re actively making it that way, Margarine Thermometer Greed. Jfc conservatives are so fucking stupid and disingenuous. Repeated school shootings aren’t a major issue, but as soon as the bullets start landing on them, the pearls get clutched. It’s so transparent and pathetic.

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    We should have let them go the first time they tried it. What was Lincoln thinkin’?

    /s, sorta

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    Literally fought the deadliest war in US history over this…

    Which would matter if she cared about history. Or objective reality.

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      Don’t threaten Republicans with learning history. These kids would be so angry if they could read.

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    Government is not answer, God is.

    Turn your full faith and trust to our Almighty God and our Savior Jesus.

    Tighten your circle around your family and protect them at all times.

    They really just can’t comprehend that they’re violent far right religious extremists…

    Can they?

    Like, if you translated what Christian Republicans and the Taliban wanted into a neutral 3rd language, I really don’t think people would be able to tell which is which.

    These dumbfucks don’t even realize “God” and “Allah” are literally the same fucking dirty and they agree on 99.9999%.

    It’s like when one far right extremists shoots another far right extremist in the neck because there’s 2-3 details they disagree on.

    If anyone isn’t exactly the same, they’re “them” and an enemy.

    If we did actually split the country, their side would just keep picking new groups to run out of their territory until there’s no one left on their side.

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      It’s also interesting how her statements mirror leftist thinking on this:

      Government won’t save you. Trust your neighbors and build mutual support networks.

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        A lot of these fucks come from backgrounds where such thinking is either the norm or was built up historically but largely forgotten in modernity. If you stripped them of the propaganda they would greatly resemble the union men and women of old.