The USA is currently united in the same way the DPRK is democratic, and Nazi’s are socialist.
In that the two biggest calls for a split are from Elon and this hag, I’m going to say it’s not in our best interests and work against it.
I just don’t understand how she sees this happening. We get the cities and they get the farms? She’s such an idiot.
We get the healthcare, they got the food. We got the jobs, they got the … food. We got the infrastructure, they got… hey guys you need to diversify here, we don’t do trading imbalances and you’re going to need MRIs
Me and the Union guys can renovate that office building into apartments, with a hydroponics farm in the basement, space for a doctor’s office, maybe a makerspace and a few resident-centric server racks.
They’ve got… Dustbowls incoming and ammo stockpikes that may or may not wither during one hunting season or another.
It starts with her then gradually others “decide” (as if they don’t already have this all planned the fuck out) to join her. Eventually other states kind of trickle away and Congress and just kind of agrees to dissolve the union.
Red states leave to form “super states”
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dissolution_of_the_Soviet_Union
Then this is just a guess but the combined National Guard of the new super states probably eventually just invade blue states regardless of if they try to hold out as part of the union.
Bc it seems like they’ve been training for this for a while. Blue cities in Red states being used to test authoritarian take over
Mississippi National Guard readies for disaster response drill
“Vigilant Guard 2025,” will take place May 12-18. It will give participants the opportunity to activate and employ their response plans to improve mission command, relationships, and interoperability among federal, state, and local agencies.
Guardsmen from Mississippi, along with those from Georgia, Tennessee, South Carolina, Texas, Utah, and Wyoming, the ability to command a statewide response to a major disaster in coordination with the Mississippi and Tennessee Emergency Management Agencies
Greene was quickly denounced at the time. Utah Governor Spencer Cox ( R) slammed Greene’s call to split the country as “evil,” and former Rep. Liz Cheney (R-WY) added that “Secession is unconstitutional. No member of Congress should advocate secession, Marjorie.”
Hmm glad those states aren’t on board with some kind of far right conspiracy plan.
Mississippi National Guard readies for disaster response drill
“Vigilant Guard 2025,” will take place May 12-18. It will give participants the opportunity to activate and employ their response plans to improve mission command, relationships, and interoperability among federal, state, and local agencies.
Guardsmen from Mississippi, along with those from Georgia, Tennessee, South Carolina, Texas, Utah, and Wyoming, the ability to command a statewide response to a major disaster in coordination with the Mississippi and Tennessee Emergency Management Agencies
No idea if this is just coincidence, but kinda weird this “drill” took place a few months ago on the border between TN and MS right outside of Memphis. Where Trump currently happens to be deploying the national guard…
I am down with that, I’ll stand with all the productive blue states, GOP Nazis can take the bible belt and Southern ‘confederacy’.
I’ll happily trade houses with someone in the West who wants to join their conservative bretheren.
Pretty sure they’re going to form super states like post Soviet countries, weaken the remaining union as much as they can, and then send national guard from super states to invade blue states.
It would mean they get the means of food production.
Well, looks like Putin’s 4D chess worked even better than he could have anticipated. The US want to dissolve themselves now. Crazy how the world changed in just 10 years.
I like the idea of red and blue splitting up. Let’s see how long those shit holes take to fester and rot from within. Red states are nothing but a drain. Fuck em.
Red states already suck and Texas oil isn’t about to solve that problem for the rest of them. They’d crumble immediately.
Unfortunately, the hypothetical blue nation would have a food problem, especially if some red parts of blue states go over. Both such countries would have serious issues.
All three countries, you mean. West, central, and northeast.
But we’d buy the food or offer to let a breadbasket join us as long as they abide our laws. Like a Puerto Rico but with flatlanders and a parent country that wants workers to be healthy earners for longer.
Canada could annex the blue states and turn them into provinces…
I declare myself a refugee. Can I get healthcare?
“annex” in the sense of “🥺️👉️👈️”
what people get from foreign invasions is a change of government, so they often even support this. but i doubt canada would be up for it, considering how much stress it could bring to them.
Mostly a comment about Trump’s 51st state rhetoric.
Oh fuck of course! I knew this shit was coming. This is exactly what happened in Russia.
Not a surprise bc the heritage foundation was behind that shit too
Paul Weyrich was the co founder of Heritage. One minute he was in Moscow teaching dissidents about holding elections and sneaking in computers and fax machines.
The next the Soviet Union had collapsed and the Heritage Foundation had helped create the first of its kind go between for U.S. and Russia business as Russia embraced “capitalism.”
Even better. Slice it into three parts. East, west and middle.
East and west can be one and middle can be on its own.
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Do it.
Blue states can grab the popcorn and watch red states cannibalize themselves.
But conservatives will use the federal government to go to war to keep the blue states…because they need us.
We don’t need them.
chuckles in purple state
I’m in danger
Financially, culturally, technologically… no. We don’t need red states. But we do need food.
right, because states like California are solid metropolis from edge to edge
Food is one of those ”strategic reserve” things, because you can’t just build farms and have them immediately start cranking out staple foods like a factory. The fed keeps strategic reserves of things that take time to create, but which have major short-term needs. A farm will take weeks or months to start producing, and farmers plan their crops literal years in advance.
And that “farms are only a few weeks away from producing” announcement is a cold comfort when people are hungry right now. Most of society is only about three days of missed meals away from violence.
The sad reality is that the south/central US produces a lot of food. Sure, there are other areas that food could be produced, but it’s not already doing so, meaning it would be useless in anything except the long-term. But in order to reach the long-term, you first need to deal with the short-term. And the short-term in this scenario has a lot of people going hungry.
dude, California is the top producer of agricultural products in the United States, producing 13% of the entire US agricultural output.
Illinois, Washington, etc up there at the top of the list as well.
Yes, but (at least according to the above split) the population density would wildly change. The central/south US exports a lot of food because they don’t have a lot of people to feed. California produces 13% of the food, but it also consumes the most because it has the most people. Same with places like New England, which would also be allied with (and thus need to be supported by) California.
The stats would suddenly skew towards the central US having a bunch of excess food per capita, while the east/west US struggled with long term food shortages, supply lines between the east/west through/around the hostile central US, etc…
Of course, eastern California might split off to go red since that half of the state is pretty solidly red…
To the extent you have some food production, that population might be mighty grumpy at being more unambiguously a political minority.
It wouldn’t be pretty…
Agreed
How would it work exactly? It’s not like most people could just up and move. Unless you do it by id system. Blue you get out in a national healthcare type system. Red you keep paying the health insurance companies.
Blue vs blue crime, blue judge. Red vs red, red judge. Red vs blue crime the criminal to go face whatever the victim or plantiff is.
But as far as a leading president, no idea how that would work
Yeah, people are gonna have to move if they want, just like they can now but with a deadline.
Yeah it’s gonna suck.
Then Republicans best get on board with huge handouts to help with this move. For everyone. They do that. Fuck ya I’ll leave. Hopefully Colorado would be a blue state
I agree. I don’t care what her reasoning is.
A Pacific States of America would be able to effectively defend itself and would be one of the largest economies in the world. It would be able to make progress on climate change and would have better corporate and banking governance. It would be more accountable to its citizens. It could feed its own citizens through agriculture.
Let the Northeast split off as well. Form a mutual defense pact with the Pacific States. Ban propagandist media like Fox News in those countries and leave the citizens of the remaining so-called United States to let themselves be manipulated into poverty and serfdom.
If a blue country does come about. , let’s just all agree religious places of worship are just banned and religion is never talked about publicly. Anything public is a heavy fine.
Intolerant hate speech is also no longer allowed except towards nazis
And religion, apparently
