An impeachment effort against Department of Homeland Security (DHS) Secretary Kristi Noem will “move forward,” members of Congress are promising, after the effort was announced last week in the wake of an Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) officer fatally shooting a United States citizen in Minneapolis.
“We’re gonna move forward to impeach Kristi Noem,” Representative Angie Craig, a Minnesota Democrat, vowed during an interview with MS Now on Sunday.
In a press release, Democratic Representative Robin Kelly‘s office said that the 3 articles of impeachment would allege Noem “abused her office for personal benefit and steered federal dollars to associates,” “willfully obstructed Congressional oversight and withheld Congressionally appropriated funds in violation of her constitutional oath and federal law” and “compromised public safety, violated due process of American citizens, and directed unconstitutional actions.”
Who wants to bet that nothing will happen to her?
This is all just a show.
Doesn’t matter. Some people will say things like “it’ll fail but at least we’ll have those names on record” but that doesn’t even matter. Without the votes and knowing this will fail is just another insta-failure for democrats that falls onto the pile of recent failures. It’d be better to wait until after the midterms.
My one friend Made the argument of why even pay attention if it didn’t matter? It’s history, nobody actually paid for Watergate or Iran contra.
Trump will pardon her, as long as she stays loyal.
You can’t pardon an impeachment, it’s not a criminal charge, it’s about misconduct that can lead to removal from office.
That said, I’m split if this will lead to anything. The administration is suffering massive public outcry and pushback, they need to hang someone. But they’re also prideful and dumb and might shoot themselves in the dick and let her stay in office.
Like Trump cares about that. He will do it.
The algorithm may only feed us rage-bait and the worst news because it gets the most engagement, but it needs to be repeated that Trump’s efforts have been shot down or blocked over and over, almost every day, by judges and the existing institutions. He can abuse the powers he has, but he can’t bend the entire judicial system or he would stop burning through thousands of lawyers.
I’m not counting on anything being done. If she gets into any real trouble, the pigking will pardon
You can’t pardon impeachment proceedings, only federal crimes. Not sure if anything will come from impeachment, but we need to understand the system even a little.
Impeachment is just pointless “respectability” politics intended to get decent people to step down out of respect for the position. The cult leader running this nonsense was impeached twice and guess what came of it? This is just another pointless show of theatrics, all sound and fury signifying nothing.
Impeachment is a necessary precursor to conviction and removal.
^future “fell for it again” award winner
Oh I don’t think it’s actually going to fucking happen. But I’m going to keep demanding it
Who cares? She will just ignore it. Unless you have some method of enforcement ready, nothing you say here will matter.
So most of us remember Noem’s main claim to fame being that she executed her new puppy, after… not training it properly, and being annoyed by it.
Well I’d like to remind folks she was behind this ad campaign:
Nope, not a joke, not a photoshop, not AI hallucination… this was her baby, and it was real.
Finally… I present to you,
KristiKaren Noem:
Yeah thats from ~7 years ago, when she still had a vaguely human face.
If memory serves… she is still, herself, personally banned from setting foot on any Indian/Native Tribal land in the entire state of South Dakota, basically for consistently being a racist c*nt, consistently disrespecting any and all tribal attempts to keep their land clean from industrial waste.
EDIT:
(I’ve been told by a local from Rapid City that she also executed a goat in a similar violent outburst as with her new puppy… but I have not been able to verify this myself, with a citable print source.
Local told me that its not uncommon to basically just rent a or some goats as basically au naturale lawnmowers, which does make sense to me…
… but she apparently got annoyed by the bleating, and one day just shot someone else’s goat, that she was renting, to be a lawnmower on her ranch.
… Yeah.)
The goat story was in her book, as an extension of the puppy story. Once she shot the puppy in the face, she was all wound up on bloodlust, and decided to shoot the goat, too, because she thought it was disgusting.
MAGAs think that’s funny.
thank you!
tips patriotism hat highly ironically
Hey! Patriotism today means fighting for a sFer America. You ARE being patriotic by informing us of the failures of the state
Yeah I got my issues with America, but I’m a true believer in the enlightenment and I love that this country is philosophically grounded in enlightenment ideas and the idea that the state’s ability to project force onto it’s citizens should be limited. I know about our contradictions, and I’m disappointed as all hell in what we’ve done with ourselves in the past decades (and longer), but part of me loves this country and believes it could be better.
But first and foremost I’m an international anti fascist. I don’t care that I love my home, it’s fallen to the fascists and is attacking the world, I can love it again once it’s been stopped.
Either way ICE receives three times more money in 2026
200 billion in the bank already. Minus whatever they spent since summer.
Who will be the left’s DOGE when the time comes to choose back that money
I think that’s just a properly funded IRS
And remember the dems that voted in favor of that increase.
They need to be primaried out
Thank you. I really cannot explain people being so adamant about hating Democrats to the point of lying unless they’re intentionally gunning for a conservative agenda.
Did you forget the budget passed by senate democrats in 2025 still included massive increases in funding for ICE and DHS?
Edit: In order to maintain fairness I did make a mistake. They only approved a continuing resolution that allowed the previously approved FY25 funding to be used. Which was a massive increase
So we get to see what they do at the end of this month, but by passing the continuing resolution they were allowed months to operate at capacity.
The one that zero Democrats voted in favor of? Yes that one.
You may want to check again. DHS recieved all requested funding for fiscal year 2026. This was passed with votes including Senate democrats on November 12th 2025.
You may recall the shutdown and how they could have used the fillabuster. 60-40 vote in favor.
Edit: I’ll admit a mistake they only approved a continuing resolution. This allows them access to the same funding approved by the Big Beautiful Bill. Which increased their budget by billions over FY24
Which budget bill besides the OBBB was passed in 2025?
Every year in October of 2025 the Senate must pass a budget for the new fiscal year.
Of course we had a shutdown with the final bill passed on November 12th 2025. Some agencies were not funded and placed on continuing resolution.
DHS, and subsequently ICE, was not one of those agencies. They recieved all requested funding. The Senate decided to keep the budget increases approved by the OBBB for fiscal year 2026.
I know its confusing fiscal year 2026 begins October 2025, but that’s the system.
Standard divide and conquer tactics. If they can keep Democrats fighting each other, the Republicans can continue their business uninterrupted.
During 2025 budget negotiations senate democrats ended their fillabuster and approved massive increases for ICE and DHS.
This isn’t divide and conquer, these are the facts.
Personally I would like to see them primaried out internally. If that fails they would still be preferable to any opposing republican candidate.
But also if these dems are going to help fund republican agendas how is that going to interrupt the republican agenda?
Democrats voted against the bill. They didn’t have enough votes to stop it and they realistically couldn’t keep the government shut down til the end of the year. That would be a bigger disaster to Americans than the bill itself. Why are you giving Republicans a free pass on responsibility?
I don’t know, I feel like having literal brownshirts running around US cities murdering people was a way worse outcome
Are you forgetting the fillabuster? You have to look at the dems that allowed this to go to the floor for a vote at all.
It should have been killed before the official vote.
Also don’t get bogged down on a budget increase approved by the “Big Beautiful Bill”. That funding was only in place for 2 months before the end of the fiscal year.
The dems had every opportunity in October 2025 to reverse this and use the fillabuster. They didn’t even mention it during the shutdown and ultimately caved. That was their chance. They decided not to take it
So first you said they voted in favor of the bill which I proved was a lie. Then you moved the goalposts to say “well, they didn’t fight hard enough” when you admit they literally shut down the government to stop the bill. Why are you so mad at Dems when you are giving Republicans a free pass?
Nope wrong bill.
The 2026 budget was approved on a 60-40 vote that included 9 democrats.
Also who the hell said I wasn’t mad at Republicans? I want those traitors all gone
And the house passed it 222-209. If you want to blame the 8 Senate Democrats that voted for the bill, go ahead (Durbin, King, Hassan, Shaheen, Cortez Masto, Rosen, Fetterman, and Kaine),but blaming all of them is nonsense. Republicans are by far the problem and pretending there is no difference is delusional.
I never once said to blame all of them, only the ones that voted for it. I researched the Senate democrats, but if house democrats voted to they share just as much blame. None are in my district so I didn’t commit everyone to memory.
Honestly you’re starting to invented arguments over things I’ve never said
This thread is confusing because ChonkyOwlbear and TrickDacy are getting a lot of upvotes upfront, but they are both children with fingers in their ears shouting “nanana i dont hear you, democrats perfect, both sides narrative is bullshit”.
They are ignoring the reality if what arrow74 said (we should primary these Dems from within the party and even failing that, they are preferable to republican candidates) and even after being proven wrong, continued to treat arrow74 like a liar who wanted to muddy waters on behalf of the republicans.
It was just a crazy ignorant boomer moment for both of them. But I needed this comment further up so that more people could just see
https://lemmy.zip/comment/23945523
The context at the end of the thread without having to go all the way through.
A lot of people are forgetting how a minority whip works in Congress. The term “whip” comes from a fox-hunting expression—“whipper-in”—referring to the member of the hunting team responsible for keeping the dogs from straying from the team during a chase.
That vote went down in one of two ways, either of which is the leader and the whip’s direct responsibility.
1: those Democrats voted on their own, in the exact number needed to pass. In which the whip is responsible for whipping up their votes to No and failed here, and Democrats need to promote a new person and primary the congressperson responsible, along with the ones who voted in favor.
2: that Whip caved under pressure and grabbed the exact number of votes needed to pass, from Congresspersons in “safe” districts or who were already planning on retiring. In which case, Democrats need to promote a new person and primary the congressperson responsible as well as primary the ones who voted in favor.
The Senate Democratic leader is Sen. Chuck Schumer (D-NY) The Senate Democratic Whip is Sen. Richard Durbin (D-IL)
The Eight Senate Democrats/Independents who voted in favor were: Sen. Richard Durbin (D-IL) Sen. Angus King (I-ME) Sen. Maggie Hassan (D-NH) Sen. Jeanne Shaheen (D-NH) Sen. Catherine Cortez Masto (D-NV) Sen. Jacky Rosen (D-NV) Sen. John Fetterman (D-PA) Sen. Tim Kaine (D-VA)
The House did not have enough votes to defeat it, and all voted against but here are those leaders too. The House Democratic leader is Rep. Hakeem Jeffries (D-NY) The House Democratic Minority Whip is Rep. Katherine Clark (D-MA)
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Keep reading the thread you’ll understand. By ending the government shutdown down they approved continual funding of ICE. Something that would not have been possible without 9 democrat votes to end the fillabuster.
ICE/DHS was only given temporary funding, so they have one more chance at the end of this month.
Either way those 9 should be primaried out.
Why are you lying? I cannot find a single democratic vote for that bill in either the Senate or the house.
So the Big Beautiful Bill when first passed did not require democrat votes, but that funding was only set for 2 months before the end of the fiscal year.
In October 2025 that funding was placed into the budget which ultimately was approved by senate democrats.
They didn’t even talk about it during the shutdown. Truthfully they didn’t even seem to care about it.
Anyway we know how that went they caved and gave the Republicans what they wanted. They had the chance to claw back that funding, but they didn’t
Giving up on their filibuster, while shitty, is absolutely not approval, so please stop lying and saying it is.
Fiscal year 2026 budget that approved funding passed a 60-40 vote with the help of 9 democrats
Source required. Obviously.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2026_United_States_federal_budget
The Senate voted 60–40 on the night of November 9 to advance the agreement.[38] Eight Senate Democrats
… they currently have more funding than the Marine Corp.
So, functionally, we’re now up to 7 branches of the Military:
Army
Navy
Marines
Airforce
Coast Guard
Space Force
DHS/ICE
The latter two were created by Trump, and of course the last one is the uh, inward facing, definitionally tyrannical military branch, you know, the kind of thing this country was founded on fighting a revolutionary war against.
There’s a reason we have a whole initial Ammendment out of the first 10, about not being able to quarter troops in private citizen’s homes.
Trump absolutely did not create the DHS or ICE.
Yeah Bush Jr did. Trump just took them from a militarized anti immigrant police force to a militarized anti “non American” police force that will disappear you for "un-American’ ideas or skin tones
Waiting to hear what talking points Israel and/or billionaire donors gave the Chuck Schumer side of the Dems to inevitably oppose this, or put no real effort into it so it inevitably fails.
Trump will just sign an executive order saying ‘lol no’ the supreme Court will say ‘yes Daddy’ and that will be it.
Kristi Noem to Fox News Sunday this past weekend: “It’s really, really horrific that we have elected officials that are using this as an opportunity to divide, using this to promote an agenda that fundamentally would take away our freedoms and our liberties in this country,”
God I hope so much that we make it through this, and she suffers terribly. Remember, this is just the beginning. By the time she is finally held to account for her crimes, it may very well not be an American court that decides her fate. God I hope they use a rope, and televise it. I know, extremely wishful thinking—every word of it. But this leftist bitch wants to see the day.
I stand with you I wanna see her hang as well
And even if everything goes perfectly, what happens when she simply doesn’t respond and continues working as usual? When she simply ignores it?
I guess we should just quit, not even bother to try. Is that what you are suggesting?
No. They are raising a valid concern that has already been demonstrated with the Attorney General.
True, it is a valid concern. Have you any suggestions?
Plenty. But suggestions are like wishes. You can make them all day long, but they’re useless without action, and right now we need action. Now organizing, that’s complicated.
Here’s 2 suggestions for action:
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Add your signature to this petition and promote it amongst your peeps : https://act.weareultraviolet.org/sign/no-fundraisers-for-killers/
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January 20, 2pm nation wide walk out. 3pm show up at your representatives office, and discuss why Noem should be impeached, including MN in the investigation of the murder perpetrated by Jonathon Ross, and other timely matters.
Unvoiced suggestions are less even than wishes.
See ya there, my friend.
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No you’re right, and then next we could try giving her the thumbs down. Maybe even booing.
He’ll just replace her with someone worse. This won’t end until they remove the tumor at the center of this all.
Probably, but it’s still much-needed actual retaliation against the regime. Doing nothing besides complaining helps even less. Wars aren’t being won in an instant but as a result of many cumulative small victories.
yup.
Yeah you’re probably right - I guess my impulse is more that even in this the Dems need to be talking about how Trump is equally lawless and incompetent and in need of removal. But they don’t understand or want to understand that in the misinfomation age, if you don’t fill a space with the truth it will be filled with lies.
To get rid of what happening involves a complete upheaval to how the US government operates and dictates. Until then, we will always be in this shitty loop. Trump is a symptom not the cause. There will be someone else definitely worse if the flaws in our government are not fixed.
Frankly, I don’t see that happening within my young lifetime.
It won’t end then either
She wont be replaced at all. They’ll never have enough votes for actual removal. Still important to make the attempt, though.
