It’s a bit of an overgeneralization to act like men are sex-obsessed and view relationships as a transaction where they can purchase sex by being nice.
It’s human to want love and care, but so many people view men as only wanting sex, so if a man complains about being lonely, isolated, or being unloved, it seems like everyone jumps to the conclusion that he’s only talking about sex. Then they scorn him, reinforcing the pattern of loneliness and building the sense of frustration and being a victim of ostracization.
Likewise, if a man is kind to a woman he’ll generally be regarded with suspicion, like “what are you trying to get out of this?” Some people just value kindness and try to be nice for the sake of being nice; but if it lands them with accusations and scorn then it’ll only go on so long before they stop. And then people will scorn them either for being rude to women or snubbing them. It seems it’s impossible to be a man in the vicinity of women without opening oneself to being labeled as a misogynist, no matter what you do.
The reality is that men are also conscious and complex human beings, and depicting them as these simple and one-dimensional sex pests isn’t really moving the dialogue forward. All it does is give women a temporary feeling of moral superiority which they then chase like any other addiction.
so many people view men as only wanting sex, so if a man complains about being lonely, isolated, or being unloved, it seems like everyone jumps to the conclusion that he’s only talking about sex. Then they scorn him, reinforcing the pattern of loneliness and building the sense of frustration and being a victim of ostracization.
Precisely.
Some people just value kindness and try to be nice for the sake of being nice; but if it lands them with accusations and scorn then it’ll only go on so long before they stop. And then people will scorn them either for being rude to women or snubbing them.
Not only that, but that will mean that the only men remaining, who haven’t stopped, are that minority that are being transactional, which further distorts women’s perception of men as a whole.
The reality is that men are also conscious and complex human beings, and depicting them as these simple and one-dimensional sex pests isn’t really moving the dialogue forward. All it does is give women a temporary feeling of moral superiority which they then chase like any other addiction.
Couldn’t have said it any better myself.
Back around 2010, my girlfriend of the time ended up on someone’s page detailing how to pick up girls, and shortly prompting readers to buy their pheromone based product (obvious scam, but that’s not the point now). She got super upset. Outraged, even. She went on a rant about how she’s not a fucking moth that can just be lured by silly simple stuff like that.
About a year later we took part in a competition where two attendees (2 girls, maybe a year or two younger) were desperately looking for accommodation. One of our rooms was empty that day, so we offered that to them with another flatmate (my GF wasn’t around that day).
When she had heard about the whole thing, she got rather jealous. Didn’t matter how much I explained it to her that I am boringly faithful, that I only love her and I didn’t care about the girls romantically, or that I have always been like this: in her mind, if a guy is “alone” with 2 girls for the night (daytime is fine, but mystically, horny zombification happens at full moon), he will be as easy to seduce as it gets, not matter what (like any of those two girls wanted anything, anyway).
Am I a fucking moth, then? It goes both ways.
Whoa, when I posted this I didn’t expect anyone to actually agree with me. Thanks for renewing my hope in the world!
Many do, wondering wanderer, many do.
It’s a bit of an overgeneralization to act like men are sex-obsessed and view relationships as a transaction where they can purchase sex by being nice.
I sincerely hope you are a woman overreacting in defense of the other gender. Because if you’re a man, you need to learn to appreciate some self-depreciating humor without getting butthurt. I could chuckle at the comic, because as usual, there is a (big) grain of truth in it.
So you’re saying my argument is only valid if I’m a woman? And if I’m a man, I just need to learn to be more self-deprecating? What kind of double-standard is that?
Good luck trying to tell women to “appreciate some self-deprecating humor without getting butthurt.” I’m sure that will turn out well for you.
Or is it only men who need to be self-deprecating? Cause again, that would be a double standard.
And if you find it self-deprecating to laugh at “men think sex is transactional,” then you’re telling on yourself. This comic is about you, so don’t act morally superior to men who don’t identify with it.
The comic lands because it’s really about basic respect and communication, not “rules.” Simple ideas, but easy to forget.
I will fuck the vending machine 🙏 thx
There’s even a screen to provide some visual stimulation which is probably needed to help you forget that you’re currently being fellated by a machine like a cow being milked.
L O L
There’s always a solution
That coin slot has me feelin all kinds of ways
I’m more of a coin return man myself
The slotussy is lubricated fr fr chat
Ok but where’s the sex vending machine from the first panel? WHERE???
Reminds me of one of Bender’s lovers from Futurama.
The Crushinator
So we know where not to go, right?
…of course
I’m sure vending machines in Japan will provide sex toys and there are life-sized realistic dolls on sale online.
If you’re just after sex and can’t get any via casual hook ups from bars / dating apps / fetish groups then just pay a consenting adult for sex.
If you’re after genuine human connection and a relationship then you should work on yourself to be someone you’d like to be in a relationship with.
Don’t forget about half of the world weirdly has made paying a consenting adult for sex illegal and extremely punishable beyond all fucking reason.
A quarter has made it quasi illegal or legal in a sense that basically is so limited it might as well be illegal
And the last quarter it’s legal. Which is basically just South America and the middle part of Western Europe.
It makes it easier to victimize them while similtaeneously pretending it is them that are doing the wrong thing. Cops are professional rapists.
Because sex workere get exploited! If they loved it, they’d do it free!
Do you believe that anytime anyone agrees to do something, but only if they get paid, that they’re being exploited?
Maybe…
I’m antiwork.
Good luck getting enough volunteers to work in and maintain a sewer system.
Instructions unclear. Vending machine now prangent.
Congrats. It’s a cool ranch Doritos.
Pregante!
How to get progant?
Am I gregnatenatte?
Olé!
I was just trying to grab a couple starch masks and, boom, gregnant
Impregnated…
It’s not “be nice goes here” it’s “fruit flavored alcohol goes here.”
Virgins.
Oh god it’s the guy that ruined ghb for the entire world.
For virgin cocktails you don’t use fruit flavoured alcohol.
If I had a dime for every time fruit flavored alcohol got me laid…
I’d have a bit less than 0.09€ because the dollar ain’t doing too good.
OK but it is how men work
Also differs person to person, but I think there is a useful highlight in here.
Traditionally being the “dominant” gender, men are expected to show signs of attention towards women to “earn” their affection (which the meme is essentially about).
But when it comes the other way around, it both breaks the social script and gives men something they severely lack - feeling that they matter, that they are worthy of attention, that they can be loved for who they are and not for what they do. And when someone is ready to break traditional norms and actively wants to give you something you never even hoped to receive, it lets the guard down pretty rapidly.
Overall, the solution to both, in my eyes, is for women to show more of such behavior, normalizing women initiating relationships and showing their affection from the start.
The reason men often go after women despite being refused is that culture often mixes “no as no” and “no as playful yes”. If women would be casually able to initiate relationships, signals would get much clearer, sparing everyone a ton of discomfort and allowing to actually build the culture of consent. Also, there would be less space for manipulation through abusing people’s needs.
Literally if you’re nice to me I’ll be attracted to you eventually. I don’t think this is healthy, it’s been abused in the past lol
Literally if you’re nice to me I’ll be attracted to you eventually.
This isn’t a unique, debilitating flaw. This is most people. Five decades navigating human interaction has shown me over and over that most of us are so desperate for connection that we will rapidly bond with all the wrong people for all the wrong reasons. Men and women alike, all day long.
The thing about those pickup art grifters and redpill bullshit sites, is that they’re framing this like some kind of jedi trick, but it’s fantastically easy to make people like you, your challenge though to be better than those scumbags is to not do it for false pretenses. Just literally make people feel good and you will have more options in your life for intimacy.
If more people understood that almost everyone actually does work like the vending machine we would understand how broken we each are and be able to stop treating ourselves like vending machines.
It’s not on you if someone tricks and victimizes you, but it is on you to recognize and practice some form of value system and self-respect so that you don’t build a story in your head to explain why you’re in love with your coworker who treats you nice.
Except the output can be either “i think you like me” or “i think you’re trying to sell me something or take advantage of me”.
Or it can rapidly switch back and forth between both.
Only if the vending machine is sexy to begin with.
…so? 🥺
Don’t be nice to women, got it!
- alpha bros
I blame romance movies and novels and such. It’s such utter bullshit, how the stereotypical storyline is that she rejects him at first and then he’s just really
desperatepersistent and then she eventually softens up and they’re married ever after.Some women like that little dance of rejecting and the guy not giving up, but even then only if they think you’re cute beforehand.
But most women will just find that creepy and off-putting. They want to have a partner they actually find attractive themselves, not just any partner who finds them attractive enough to persist through humiliation.Some women like that little dance of rejecting and the guy not giving up, but even then only if they think you’re cute beforehand. But most women will just find that creepy and off-putting.
The big frustration comes with the fact that the “most” women above are still happily consuming the romance movies/novels with the toxic paradigm you describe, along with the “some”. And then they’ll turn around and get indignant about it existing in real life, while promoting/encouraging it culturally simultaneously.
Look at the colossal sales figures for 50 Shades of Grey, what percentage of that do you think came from men?
Yeah I literally spent the first few decades of my life thinking this because nobody told me how it actually works, and media was all I had to go on.
The guys in these romance movies also tend to be fairly handsome and charming. The rejections are more often because the woman has had bad experiences with men and is careful. Or something else like that. Or maybe she’s got an abusive boyfriend she hasn’t left yet. Whereas in real life it’s entirely possible to just not be that person’s type.
I blame them too.
The stereotype need to die.
Some men take rejections seriously. If you blow them off then they move on. In some cases men find it really hurts because they know they’ll be good together.
Can we go back to when no Tinder, no social media to carry out these “modern” romance practice please? No more stupid romance movies. And please every country pass a law to put a disclaimer on Jane Austen’s books, saying “This romance story never happened.”
“Some” is doing a lot of work in that statement.
Yeah, I met maybe 2½ in my lifetime.
Even Bev?
Hey, Bev is a beautiful woman with her own complex inner thoughts, desires, hopes, and dreams!
Why no sex if sex doll shape ? /s
Instructions unclear. Fucked a vending machine.
Mr. Simpson, are you just holding on to the cans?
I think anyone can be programmed to like anyone else. Look at most of our politicians.
I think we should be looking at all the marketing and data collection used to that end.
Am not sure I get the analogy. Most people don’t like politicians and I’m pretty sure politicians are only pretending to like their constituents.
True, I guess literally everyone at political rallies are paid actors. Fake news, am I right?
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Okay, brand new contributor who happened to just start an account 6 days ago. . . Now do a comic about the complexities of men. . . .Oh, wait - we’re just a bunch of testosterone fueled dicks? Oh, okay . . . Fuck off!
A straw man so silly you almost prove the comic right. Crazy.
It’s not strictly implied men aren’t also complex. It’s simply implied that there is a sizeable group of people who treat women like the vending machine. You can treat women poorly and be complex at the same time.
I’m a man and I’m not that complex. Be nice to me and I’ll do shit for you. Or leave me alone and I’ll leave you alone. Also I want to fuck as much as possible. That’s pretty much it.
True, though I can’t help but wonder where the accompanying comic is that implies there’s a sizeable group of people who see men as just dumb bank accounts who only want sex and are pigs, and how that comic would be perceived as opposed to this one.
I’m betting the author didn’t make said comic and anyone who posted it if it were made would be called an incel immediately, but who knows.
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