• lmmarsano@lemmynsfw.comEnglish
    4·
    39 minutes ago

    Alright, but what exactly are those packages in the vending machine? What do packages of sex look like? Will knocking the machine back and forth shake out free packages? Can we use the coin on a string trick or get our hand stuck in the door?

    I feel there’s so much we’re missing here.

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  • wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz
    323·
    3 hours ago

    It’s a bit of an overgeneralization to act like men are sex-obsessed and view relationships as a transaction where they can purchase sex by being nice.

    It’s human to want love and care, but so many people view men as only wanting sex, so if a man complains about being lonely, isolated, or being unloved, it seems like everyone jumps to the conclusion that he’s only talking about sex. Then they scorn him, reinforcing the pattern of loneliness and building the sense of frustration and being a victim of ostracization.

    Likewise, if a man is kind to a woman he’ll generally be regarded with suspicion, like “what are you trying to get out of this?” Some people just value kindness and try to be nice for the sake of being nice; but if it lands them with accusations and scorn then it’ll only go on so long before they stop. And then people will scorn them either for being rude to women or snubbing them. It seems it’s impossible to be a man in the vicinity of women without opening oneself to being labeled as a misogynist, no matter what you do.

    The reality is that men are also conscious and complex human beings, and depicting them as these simple and one-dimensional sex pests isn’t really moving the dialogue forward. All it does is give women a temporary feeling of moral superiority which they then chase like any other addiction.

    • ObjectivityIncarnate@lemmy.world
      11·
      3 hours ago

      so many people view men as only wanting sex, so if a man complains about being lonely, isolated, or being unloved, it seems like everyone jumps to the conclusion that he’s only talking about sex. Then they scorn him, reinforcing the pattern of loneliness and building the sense of frustration and being a victim of ostracization.

      Precisely.

      Some people just value kindness and try to be nice for the sake of being nice; but if it lands them with accusations and scorn then it’ll only go on so long before they stop. And then people will scorn them either for being rude to women or snubbing them.

      Not only that, but that will mean that the only men remaining, who haven’t stopped, are that minority that are being transactional, which further distorts women’s perception of men as a whole.

      The reality is that men are also conscious and complex human beings, and depicting them as these simple and one-dimensional sex pests isn’t really moving the dialogue forward. All it does is give women a temporary feeling of moral superiority which they then chase like any other addiction.

      Couldn’t have said it any better myself.

      • Dicska@lemmy.world
        9·
        2 hours ago

        Back around 2010, my girlfriend of the time ended up on someone’s page detailing how to pick up girls, and shortly prompting readers to buy their pheromone based product (obvious scam, but that’s not the point now). She got super upset. Outraged, even. She went on a rant about how she’s not a fucking moth that can just be lured by silly simple stuff like that.

        About a year later we took part in a competition where two attendees (2 girls, maybe a year or two younger) were desperately looking for accommodation. One of our rooms was empty that day, so we offered that to them with another flatmate (my GF wasn’t around that day).

        When she had heard about the whole thing, she got rather jealous. Didn’t matter how much I explained it to her that I am boringly faithful, that I only love her and I didn’t care about the girls romantically, or that I have always been like this: in her mind, if a guy is “alone” with 2 girls for the night (daytime is fine, but mystically, horny zombification happens at full moon), he will be as easy to seduce as it gets, not matter what (like any of those two girls wanted anything, anyway).

        Am I a fucking moth, then? It goes both ways.

        • Jarix@lemmy.world
          1·
          1 hour ago

          Try to remember the 80/20 rule (may not be accurate with those exact numbers) 80 % of people on here are invisible and rarely make themselves noticed.

          The vocal minority skews perceptions but are often rather noisy about their opinions…which is just like my opinion, man

    • raspberriesareyummy@lemmy.world
      110·
      2 hours ago

      It’s a bit of an overgeneralization to act like men are sex-obsessed and view relationships as a transaction where they can purchase sex by being nice.

      I sincerely hope you are a woman overreacting in defense of the other gender. Because if you’re a man, you need to learn to appreciate some self-depreciating humor without getting butthurt. I could chuckle at the comic, because as usual, there is a (big) grain of truth in it.

      • wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz
        9·
        2 hours ago

        So you’re saying my argument is only valid if I’m a woman? And if I’m a man, I just need to learn to be more self-deprecating? What kind of double-standard is that?

        Good luck trying to tell women to “appreciate some self-deprecating humor without getting butthurt.” I’m sure that will turn out well for you.

        Or is it only men who need to be self-deprecating? Cause again, that would be a double standard.

        And if you find it self-deprecating to laugh at “men think sex is transactional,” then you’re telling on yourself. This comic is about you, so don’t act morally superior to men who don’t identify with it.

  • JuliaSuraez@lemmy.world
    111·
    6 hours ago

    The comic lands because it’s really about basic respect and communication, not “rules.” Simple ideas, but easy to forget.

  • ThePyroPython@lemmy.world
    254·
    10 hours ago

    If you’re just after sex and can’t get any via casual hook ups from bars / dating apps / fetish groups then just pay a consenting adult for sex.

    If you’re after genuine human connection and a relationship then you should work on yourself to be someone you’d like to be in a relationship with.

    • Holytimes@sh.itjust.works
      13·
      5 hours ago

      Don’t forget about half of the world weirdly has made paying a consenting adult for sex illegal and extremely punishable beyond all fucking reason.

      A quarter has made it quasi illegal or legal in a sense that basically is so limited it might as well be illegal

      And the last quarter it’s legal. Which is basically just South America and the middle part of Western Europe.

    • Allero@lemmy.today
      101·
      6 hours ago

      Also differs person to person, but I think there is a useful highlight in here.

      Traditionally being the “dominant” gender, men are expected to show signs of attention towards women to “earn” their affection (which the meme is essentially about).

      But when it comes the other way around, it both breaks the social script and gives men something they severely lack - feeling that they matter, that they are worthy of attention, that they can be loved for who they are and not for what they do. And when someone is ready to break traditional norms and actively wants to give you something you never even hoped to receive, it lets the guard down pretty rapidly.

      Overall, the solution to both, in my eyes, is for women to show more of such behavior, normalizing women initiating relationships and showing their affection from the start.

      The reason men often go after women despite being refused is that culture often mixes “no as no” and “no as playful yes”. If women would be casually able to initiate relationships, signals would get much clearer, sparing everyone a ton of discomfort and allowing to actually build the culture of consent. Also, there would be less space for manipulation through abusing people’s needs.

    • boonhet@sopuli.xyz
      271·
      11 hours ago

      Literally if you’re nice to me I’ll be attracted to you eventually. I don’t think this is healthy, it’s been abused in the past lol

      • ameancow@lemmy.worldEnglish
        1·
        2 hours ago

        Literally if you’re nice to me I’ll be attracted to you eventually.

        This isn’t a unique, debilitating flaw. This is most people. Five decades navigating human interaction has shown me over and over that most of us are so desperate for connection that we will rapidly bond with all the wrong people for all the wrong reasons. Men and women alike, all day long.

        The thing about those pickup art grifters and redpill bullshit sites, is that they’re framing this like some kind of jedi trick, but it’s fantastically easy to make people like you, your challenge though to be better than those scumbags is to not do it for false pretenses. Just literally make people feel good and you will have more options in your life for intimacy.

        If more people understood that almost everyone actually does work like the vending machine we would understand how broken we each are and be able to stop treating ourselves like vending machines.

        It’s not on you if someone tricks and victimizes you, but it is on you to recognize and practice some form of value system and self-respect so that you don’t build a story in your head to explain why you’re in love with your coworker who treats you nice.

    • Annoyed_🦀 @lemmy.zipEnglish
      9·
      11 hours ago

      Except the output can be either “i think you like me” or “i think you’re trying to sell me something or take advantage of me”.

  • Ephera@lemmy.mlEnglish
    741·
    17 hours ago

    I blame romance movies and novels and such. It’s such utter bullshit, how the stereotypical storyline is that she rejects him at first and then he’s just really desperate persistent and then she eventually softens up and they’re married ever after.

    Some women like that little dance of rejecting and the guy not giving up, but even then only if they think you’re cute beforehand.
    But most women will just find that creepy and off-putting. They want to have a partner they actually find attractive themselves, not just any partner who finds them attractive enough to persist through humiliation.

    • ObjectivityIncarnate@lemmy.world
      2·
      2 hours ago

      Some women like that little dance of rejecting and the guy not giving up, but even then only if they think you’re cute beforehand. But most women will just find that creepy and off-putting.

      The big frustration comes with the fact that the “most” women above are still happily consuming the romance movies/novels with the toxic paradigm you describe, along with the “some”. And then they’ll turn around and get indignant about it existing in real life, while promoting/encouraging it culturally simultaneously.

      Look at the colossal sales figures for 50 Shades of Grey, what percentage of that do you think came from men?

    • Baggie@lemmy.zip
      5·
      7 hours ago

      Yeah I literally spent the first few decades of my life thinking this because nobody told me how it actually works, and media was all I had to go on.

    • boonhet@sopuli.xyz
      16·
      11 hours ago

      The guys in these romance movies also tend to be fairly handsome and charming. The rejections are more often because the woman has had bad experiences with men and is careful. Or something else like that. Or maybe she’s got an abusive boyfriend she hasn’t left yet. Whereas in real life it’s entirely possible to just not be that person’s type.

    • CarrotsHaveEars@lemmy.ml
      251·
      15 hours ago

      I blame them too.

      The stereotype need to die.

      Some men take rejections seriously. If you blow them off then they move on. In some cases men find it really hurts because they know they’ll be good together.

      Can we go back to when no Tinder, no social media to carry out these “modern” romance practice please? No more stupid romance movies. And please every country pass a law to put a disclaimer on Jane Austen’s books, saying “This romance story never happened.”