It’s because the same psychopathic traits that are virtues to capitalists also make the person the type who wants to do any taboo thing as a flex of their own power.
It’s not necessarily that these people are just pedophiles. They’re into domination and destruction of innocence. You see this same pattern among all the psychos who end up with power anywhere.
Yeah I can see some of them definitely into it just to know that they did something so reprehensible but still not get any repercussions for it. They probably got a more out of that than the kids themselves. And frankly, that’s just as terrifying.
I offer that it’s actually worse, since it requires acting on it and knowing it’s wrong.
A lot of predatory sex crimes are more about abusing the power dynamic rather than sexual gratification.
That’s why there’s a difference between a child rapist and a pedophile.
I’m reminded of Michael Jackson. Guy was stupid rich and successful, still diddled with children.
I think the general consensus was that he was weird and creepy, but we didn’t actually have proof that he was a pederast.
Sorta like the creepy old man in the van down by the river; nobody saw him do anything weird so he’s not in jail, but everyone and their mothers makes sure he doesn’t ever get any alone time with a vulnerable person.
From what I’ve seen in documentaries, he was as child. That whole “building theme parks in his backyard to attract children” thing would fit a kid trapped in an adult (and filthy rich) body.
I think that’s where the evidence led. Yes, it was weird, even creepy, but MJ was broken thanks to his asshole father and never had a proper childhood. This was his way of dealing with the pain, trying to recapture it. Maybe some things happened beyond that, but I don’t think it’s been proven, and him being a child inside still would make sense based on his behavior everywhere.
Unlike all the current ones in the news, who obviously were doing horrible things to children.
It’s just about the most depressing way to find out that someone didn’t molest children.
I’m pretty sure the guy in the van down by the river is actually a ninja. I saw Liu Kang following him around.
Except in the case of Jackson, because he was rich, bad parents looking for a payout would intentionally bring him their children and then sue him for his behavior with their children
Yeah, the most likely explanation for his behavior is that he basically had no childhood (which is known) and tried to have one vicariously by hanging out with children.
He also had the money to create a children’s fantasy land to live in. That’s the most atypical part. Had he not, he would have died with a far larger fortune.
I don’t understand how this notion is so readily accepted.
Tons of people have difficult childhoods where circumstances forced them to grow up quickly, without them developing weird childhood obsessions that involve them inviting other people’s kids to share a bed with them.
(edit: mind blown at how many people are lining up to defend child abuse. He didn’t have a childhood, which gave him the right to take other kids’ childhoods from them? Y’all must really not want to give up that awesome record collection.)
I think it’s telling, not to mention intellectually dishonest, that you characterize the people who are giving you sound logical reasons to not see Michael as a pedophile, as defending child abuse.
They’re not sound logical reasons, they’re terrible bits of hand-wringing, armchair psychiatry, and lame excuse making that make a deliberate choice to ignore both the clear damage done to his victims and the massive pile of evidence of the things he did.
Also, I didn’t call him a pedophile, I said he abused children. Which he did.
They’re not sound logical reasons, they’re terrible bits of hand-wringing, armchair psychiatry, and lame excuse making that make a deliberate choice to ignore both the clear damage done to his victims and the massive pile of evidence of the things he did.
You should have brought that info to his trial. I’m sure the people who failed to convict him on any counts would have been delighted to hear it.
Oh well if the jury failed to convict that must mean it didn’t happen, along with the dozens of similar accusations made by other children.
Tons of people suffered horrible abuse and didn’t become a serial killer.
Human psychology is a stupid complex thing, and Jackson was a pretty unique case. Just because it doesn’t typically happen doesn’t mean that it’s not a likely explanation in some cases.
Dude was so detached from regular life they had to book an entire grocery store so he could experience shopping for food.
Plus, it’s pretty common for child stars to have serious maturity issues as adults.
You can also see similar behavior from people whose schooling took away their late teens and 20s. It’s not uncommon for doctors to act like the ages they lost during med school.
Also plenty of adults with fucked up childhoods do wind up doing innocent childish things, but they do them in private and within their means. Jackson had no privacy, basically ever in his life, and near infinite means. I don’t personally get it, but that’s the thing about mental health issues, they tend to not make sense to those of us without the issue.
Jackson was really young when his childhood effectively ended. Five years old. I had a difficult childhood, but I at least got to go to school and have friends and have some modicum of a social life. And even then, I spent most of my college years making up for stages I missed out on in high school.
It’s not that far-fetched to me that he would want to reclaim parts of childhood that he missed out on, and it seems like he also tried to provide that kind of opportunity for other child stars (notably Macaulay Culkin). I’m not saying I’m sold one way or the other, but the notion is definitely understandable.
Eh, I kind of skipped some phases to life, and my approach is that I don’t want to see the rest of it anymore.
It’s overrated, all human crap, stuff that you are made to want when you don’t need it, and you aren’t entitled to it.
Trying to focus on my attributes, on how I deal with life instead.
These people are just pathetic.
Everyone is different buddy. Different people respond to different situations differently.
My issue with this, is why didn’t all those child labourers 50-100 years ago regress to childhood then? So incredibly many children forced into becoming an adult and working from a very young age, but they didn’t start inviting kids into their beds just to have a sleepover.
They still got to spend time with other kids. You could argue that the labour was a normal childhood.
The difference is that Jackson was uniquely isolated. He wasn’t spending his days with other child performers his age, he was spending it with his older brothers and adults.
Apparently his dad “took” his groupies for him because he was too young. He’d also be in the dressing room while his older brothers had sex. His childhood was truly robbed from him.
They just beat their wives and kids. Culture back then wouldn’t allow men to show emotion unless it was anger. They became alcoholic, adulterers, abusive and depressed. I’m sure they diddled their own children as well. Had they had enough money I’m certain plenty of them would’ve done shit like this.
They also died young from work-related illnesses too
Yeah, most people develop other maladaptive patterns that haunt them for the rest of their lives. Psychological trauma and the responses to it have many faces.
In the case of Jackson, the trauma resulted from being forced to dedicate himself to performing on stage from age six and getting beaten for substandard performance. That’s the point where had to grow up. I can kinda see why he longed for the time before that.
I think the general consensus is that he was a pederast, where are you from?
I am from Earth
Can you back that up with some facts? Because he was acquitted, you know. Not guilty on all charges.
Sure, use duck-duck-go and search for “Michael Jackson pedophilia history”
Maybe Google would work too, not sure.
Lots of guilty people are acquitted, that doesn’t matter to me. Where I’m from, if 20 women say a guy is a rapist, he’s a rapist. That’s it. Regardless of courts and officially being found “guilty”.
If 20 children say “this guy is a pedophile”, I think they are a pedophile. I have my own evidentiary standards and am not limited to court decisions.
Courts also say “corporations are people” and all sorts of wacky shit, in USA courts are a joke.
So you have no more evidence than the jury who acquitted him, yet you still think he could have been acquitted. It’s obvious you have a motive here besides the truth of the matter. I’m glad people like you weren’t on that jury.
There’s evidence that they didn’t even get to see! So much of it, more than I am able to possibly list here.
It’s obvious you are pro the US courts, and can’t be trusted with serious decisions in any way. I would pray that if I ever went on a trial that you would be on my jury, because you are very naive and easy to manipulate. Why, with you on the jury I’d likely be acquitted!
Anyways, if 20 women say a man is a rapist, I think he’s a rapist. If 20 kids say a guy is a pedophile, I think they are a pedophile. And so on
But you go ahead and believe the “judges” like Clarence Thomas and Anthony Scalia, and their millionaire lawyer lackeys. It’s your call
