• Maxnmy's@lemmy.world
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    10 months ago

    The fact that Bluesky has some form of content moderation and has occasionally banned users for things like using racial slurs in their usernames.

    Actually, Jack Dorsey may be the problem. Good to see him shift focus to that “free speech”, pro-cryptocurrency platform Nostr. I see it like a containment zone for the worst people.

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      I think that it’s hard to find a level of content control that everyone is happy with. I’d favor fewer restrictions.

      But that’s one thing that’s nice about the Threadiverse model – it’s federated. You can have one set of restrictions on one instance, and another on another.

      Beehaw has pretty good conversation. I enjoy my discussions on their communities. They have a pretty upbeat mood. It also has an extremely low bar for defederation – it’s defederated with even lemmy.world. I don’t like that, would not use that as my home instance.

      My home instance is lemmy.today. The admin there is aiming for not defederating with anyone. I like that. But…not everyone wants that.

      Point is, there can be multiple levels of content moderation on the Threadiverse, both at the instance and community level, and people who have different preferences can have the level of moderation that they want. Some people take a free-speech-absolutist position. Others want a safe space. Some people don’t want pornography on their forums. Some people only want certain types of pornography. Some people take issue with certain types of political radicalism. Some people want to associate with Threads users, and others do not.

      I think that that’s maybe the best of all worlds.

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    Bluesky saw this exodus of people from Twitter show up, and it was a very, very common crowd. … But little by little, they started asking Jay and the team for moderation tools, and to kick people off. And unfortunately they followed through with it. That was the second moment I thought, uh, nope. This is literally repeating all the mistakes we made as a company.”

    This is the same problem that all these “free speech platforms” keep running into. Some people will abuse free speech - if nothing else, I think everyone can agree spam is a type of abusive speech. But the difference between abusive speech and ordinary speech isn’t a sharp line, and the definitions of “abuse” will vary. So there needs to be some mechanism or rules for deciding what that line is. But all the people that create these platforms instead wanna pretend that line doesn’t exist, so they don’t create a means of determining it. So then “abuse” becomes whatever the users demand and/or the decisionmakers decide it is. Which is exactly the same as having no free speech to begin with.

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    10 months ago

    He looks like he’s ready to start working on a manifesto, just gotta let the hair grow out more to match the beard

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    Not coincidentally, Dorsey still has about $1 billion of his personal wealth invested in the company now known as X

    HAD. Had a billion dollars…

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      Maybe he started with 5 or 10 billion dollars left in the company!

      How to become a billionaire: Start with 5 billion.

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    Honestly the short form content incentivizing formats should be dropped altogether. Short form content has pretty clearly fried people’s attention spans and burnt a lot of their fuse to boot.

    The incentive to be smug snappy and smarmy to own people for internet points is too much, nevermind the algorithms that more or less act as a match finder for mass shouting contests as opposed to organic socialization where people who aren’t psychopaths tend to have the good sense to just ignore each other if they encounter irreconcilable differences of ethical and political values.

    That’s right, the echo chamber was invented by the social media companies to gaslight you for not being happy they basically play rage tinder with your feed.

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      I have a feeling that the only short-term solution is heavy content curation by the users themselves. Nobody is incentivized to do it for us. It takes time and effort but the only thing that has made any kind of difference is blocking everything you don’t want to see. And I mean ruthlessly doing so. Someone replied with a clown emoji to this thread and they’re now blocked. That’s how petty I’m about it nowdays. The vast majority of users on social media just add to the noise and it’s this group of people I’m trying to get rid of.

      The way I think about it is by imagining a room with 100 random people. Do I want to talk with all of them? No. I’d rather talk with the couple most interesting ones among them and ignore the rest. I don’t have the time and energy to pay attention to the constant feed of meaningless nonsense.

      Block subs you’re not interested in. Block users that dont bring any value. Add content filters for topics you’re sick of reading about etc. You’re not going to miss out on anything. You’re not going to run out of content. You’ll hardly notice any difference but after some time the signal does start to get stronger and the noise does quiet down a bit.

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      Ok but you are commenting that in a short-form reply to a short-form social media post. Just saying…

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    Even if somebody wanted to make an unmoderated ATProto app, I guess they could? Good luck with the app stores and regulators and users

    ActivityPub provides the option to do just that. Anybody can spin up a server running Mastodon, Lemmy, Pleroma, etc… and moderate it however they like. There are a multitude of clients in app stores and an unmoderated server won’t affect that because they’re generic clients like web browsers. There are countries such a server could be hosted in with minimal regulations.

    As for users… you’ll probably get some and they’ll probably be horrible. Most people will probably block your server.

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    Wasn’t this guy hired to be some kind of poster-boy CEO because he has a highschool masturbation related injury that causes one of his arms to constantly ache? Why is he giving everyone business advice now?

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      he has a highschool masturbation related injury that causes one of his arms to constantly ache

      Source? I’ve never heard of this (never cared much about him or Twitter) and tried to look it up, but I’m not seeing it anywhere.

      I don’t understand how anybody can do something for a while, make millions or even billions off of doing that thing, and then they try to do other things to make more money and stay in the public eye. Just buy an island and fuck off for your remaining decades of retired decadence. What more could you want?

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        I’ll have to dig it up tomorrow, but that was an illusion to a mountain climbing injury he sustained at some point earlier in life (to an arm) that left him in constant pain. He was able to function by mentally mastering the discomfort which he credited to meditation or something like that.

        I believe it was an interview that aired on NPR at least 5 years ago.

        I’m with you. When I saw The Saint as a kid it seemed like the perfect plan. Do crimes and retire when you hit 5 million ;-)

        Seriously, I think it’s a widespread addiction. You see your nest-egg turn into millions and then billions… it’s got to be a rush.

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        the kind of personality it takes to get to that level of wealth has no concept of enough wealth. money is how the untalented keep score.

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    Jack Dorsey is clinically insane. Stop listening to things he has to say.

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    Bluesky is pretty fun and I’m glad he’s not there shitting it up anymore. I’ve only seen one nutsack on there so far.

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      Bluesky hasn’t been hyper-commoditized yet. I don’t see ads everywhere. I don’t have bots jamming ׺°”˜”°º× 🎀 𝒫𝓊𝓈𝓈𝓎 𝐼𝓃 𝐵𝒾♡ 🎀 ׺°”˜”°º× into my feed. I’m not being spammed with “We noticed you haven’t joined our premium service yet, but for $8/mo we’ll stop showing you this message!” annoyance marketing.

      But I’ve got no doubt its coming. It just hasn’t hit that Twitter-level critical mass of users, such that enshittification turns a profit rather than curbing adoption.

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        It just hasn’t hit that Twitter-level critical mass of users

        Twitter used to be bigger than it is now and it also used to have less spam. So clearly size isn’t the problem.

        The problem with twitter is Musk fired all the people who spent their day figuring out how to hide (or just delete) shitty content.

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          Twitter used to be bigger than it is now and it also used to have less spam. So clearly size isn’t the problem.

          Twitter usage surged significantly prior to the Musk buyout. In 2010 they had 40M. They crested 400M users by 2020.

          That’s the difference between growing your base and harvesting them.

          Bluesky has in the neighborhood of 5-6M, by comparison.