That seems - illegal!
It is. But laws without enforcement are meaningless, and nobody’s willing to enforce them. So they’ll do whatever the fuck they want until or unless someone makes them stop.
How much “commision” does Donny 2 Inches keep?
If I was a Republican in Congress, I’d be PISSED that the president is illegally taking several of the most important aspects of my job away from me.
They should be up in arms that the president is acting like a dictator and telling them all what to do. But they all are in on the grifting, so none of them care.
Start by giving it to programs nobody in their right mind would oppose, like food and formula for mothers and babies.
It’s only later that you use this precedent to justify doing it again (and again and again) for other programs that just so happen to coincide nicely with what you want.
Jesus fuckin christ. Talk about leverage holy fuck.
Hate to break it to you, but the GOP has been openly voting against those very things for at least a decade.
More accurate headline:
White House announces blatantly unconstitutional plan to allocate tariff revenue without Congress
But since the Supreme Court no longer enforces the Constitution, it’s anybody’s guess what will come of it.
The Supreme Court has no enforcement arm whatsoever and relies solely on the other two branches to enforce their rulings. What could possibly go wrong?
The system only works if people believe in it. Disegarding the rule of law works both ways and this might bite them in the ass IF any Democrat finds the spine to do what has to be done.
I have always found it a fitting metaphor for the entire US political system that the judiciary is controlled by nine people - who are appointed for life and essentially make decisions without any checks and balances.
Well, there’s a point to tenure. It’s to be able to weather demented rapists who make it into office. But yeah it’s been thoroughly bescrewed by the Heritage Foundation creeps and Moscow Mitch’s fuckery. Lately, anyway.
Could have voted Hilary and had a good court but no.
Maybe it would be better to just put people in there for 15 years or so? Longer than the 8 years for one president at minimum, but NOT FOR FUCKING LIFE. Unchecked power breeds corruption. It was always dependent on the good will of the judges and that is not something a country should bank on in the long term.
It would be better to just have people come in on rotations from the benches of the highest courts.
Yeah that’s what most other constitutional tribunals do I think. In Poland for example it’s a 15 year term so even though the court is packed with unconstitutional judges they have to go away soon anyway.
I mean I do find it funny in a way: they decided they didn’t want to be ruled over by a king for life, but then decided for the supreme court: ah fuck it, don’t want to bother selecting new guys every decade. Make it for life, just like the king we just seceded from.
Well they also didn’t have term limits on the president at the time either lol.
Well, but at least terms of set lengths. That was already progress.
I would wish certain positions in my country, Germany, also had term limits. I haven’t yet have a chancellor in my whole life where I thought: oh yes, please more of that. But others disagree and so we got in our history since 1945 3 chancellors with 4 terms. =( we call other countries backwards for having presidents hold on to positions…
The thing is there is no revenue from tariffs. The government isn’t a business. When you pay taxes or tariffs, that money does not go sit into an account waiting to be spent. The Congress might allocate a budget for certain departments, but it has nothing to do with how much is sitting in an account. The government literally creates money as it needs it and destroys money in order to keep the value of the money stable.
What will absolutely be happening is that spineless partisans in the Congress will approve unlimited printing of money. For his fascist pets projects which will crash the value of the dollar harder than it already was. Mark, my words, they’re already commenting how the value of the dollar has crashed to levels not seen since 1973. They are literally going to crash it all the way down to great depression levels in order to put on theater.of them pretending to help their pet morons. While only screwing everyone including their pet morons over.
Interesting. So, honnestly, can you explain that strange trip to “see if the gold reserve is still there” in Trunp’s first couple weeks? I keep wondering if it’s a hint or part of something but can’t figure it out.
Did I miss anything? You have any thoughts on that?
Interesting.
Why the fuck would congress give up the only remaining power they have permanently to Trump?
Well, I have a strong suspicion it’s because the government isn’t run by Trump it’s run by the Heritage Foundation.
They Live was a fucking warning and it turns out they weren’t aliens all along, they were billionaires.
Why the fuck would congress give up the only remaining power
While I’ve asked that same question many times, they keep doing it.
However in this case it looks like Congress doing its job requires passing some sort of budget to reopen the government. If they let Trump usurp their power to fund WIC, that takes off some of the pressure and they don’t have to cave to Democrats
Why the fuck would congress give up the only remaining power they have permanently to Trump?
cult
If you delegate power to the president, it’s one less thing for your constituents to complain about, and then you can spend more time fundraising for the next election
The Manchurian Idiot
Why would the Roman Senate allow their emperors to do the same?
Short sighted personal interests, mostly.
They did sort of deal with that problem though. Almost.
Good initial effort, weak follow through
Theyre probably forgetting the part of roman history where, after making their version of a legislature a rubber stamp, being a roman emperor became the most hazardous occupation possible. On average, if you managed to stay in the role without getting assassinated by your successor for a year then that was considered a pretty good run
I just don’t count other people killing them so they can be the emperor instead
Because when the king speaks you obey.
The White House now decides revenue (tariffs) and how that money is spent. Two things that are specifically Congress’ job.
Also bypassing laws through executive order and ignoring court decisions.
Straight up dictatorship.
But to Americans, as long as they can afford a cheeseburger, they don’t care what’s going on with the guberment
Look at moneybags over here, ale to afford a cheeseburger!
Who the hell can afford a cheeseburger?
maybe you haven’t heard about the (un)affordability of cheeseburgers in the last couple years. Shits about to get real.
Not to be pedantic or anything, but it is important when ever possible to point out that what we pay in for taxes or tariffs does not sit in an account or accrue any interest. When the government collects taxes or tariffs that money ceases to exist and is taken out of the economy.
You’re absolutely correct though, that the Congress is abdicating their powers. They will absolutely approve whatever funding no matter how much it damages the dollar to make dear leader look good.
It’s participation in a fascist fantasy to pretend that tariffs or taxes produce revenue like some sort of business sheet to be balanced.Even just unwittingly repeating it only helps their position and hurts ours.
A good moment to reflect on the fact that Congress can take the power to set tariffs away from the President if and when it wants. Right now, if I am not mistaken, the President is operating on “emergency” powers.
A good reminder that the president wasn’t supposed to have that power in the first place. This is tyranny – not the potential for it, the actuality of it.
Everything he does is because of some declared emergency. It’s ridiculous and hilarious at this point.
Tarrifs - an economic emergency (with every single country with which a tarriff is levied)
Deploying the National Guard - national emergency of foreign invasion by immigrants somehow invading the usa
Literally blowing up 4 vessels (so far) in international waters and killing civilians - a recently declared “non-international armed conflict (niac)” with the gang tren de aragua. Basically saying the country is currently at war. Also declaring gangs as international terrorists gives them the ability to indiscriminately do whatever they want according to them.
Arresting immigrants without warrants, forgoing due process and deporting to wherever the fuck they want - national emergency of foreign invasion by immigrants somehow invading the usa
Dismantling or destroying any organizations they just simply don’t like and arresting and killing, if necessary, their members - recently released NSPM-7 which basically declares anyone having just about anything to do with anything even remotely left leaning as a domestic terrorist. This includes anything “anti-American, anti-capitalism, and anti-Christianity; support for the overthrow of the United States Government; extremism on migration, race, and gender; and hostility towards those who hold traditional American views on family, religion, and morality” which can pretty much apply to anyone ever.
A lot of these actions can be read in the documented rise of nazi germany.
Careful. That sounds an awful lot like something a domestic terrorist would say!!! 😲
Yeah, I don’t find any of it hilarious
Trump and Republicans create problems so they can say only Republicans can fix it.
Nothing new.
The Trump administration is planning to deploy millions of dollars in tariff revenue to tide over a critical nutrition program for low-income moms and babies during the ongoing government shutdown.
Why would they want to fix it? They can write blank checks with our taxes now
This has nothing to do with poor mothers and everything to do with limits to executive power.
The executive branch SHOULD have no power over spending.
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millions of dollars in tariff revenue to tide over a critical nutrition program for low-income moms and babies
From the linked article
Taxation without representation is always well received by the populace.
These days yes.
Politics at work:
- if Dems do nothing, it’s de facto accepted that they can do this in the future and Dems cannot object
- if Dems fight back, they’re fighting against “nutrition programme for low income moms” imagine the optics.
Congress and the courts have surrendered to the president. The courts could deputize any local officials to enforce their rulings and freeze assets to heads of departments until they comply. Congress corps freeze all money going to the white house and remove the president. Neither are using their full power to save America.
The orange turd needs a new toilet for his shiny new plane. Brown people sat on the old one…
What an adorable way to destroy democracy.
Trump states he will direct money towards an important program (which anyone would have to be a monster to argue it isn’t deserving of funding), by subverting a core principle laid out in the constitution which ensures another check and balance on executive powers.
His MAGA snowflake army will cheer his amazing heart and empathy while he establishes a precedent for future appropriations of his own illegal slush fund.
Bro is just speed running his Emperor Palpatine quest…
He knows he doesn’t have much time left. He is just being used to set up the crony government that will be passed on the JD couchfucker Vance because he has the political charisma of a wet towel.
Once the transfer of power occurs it will be too late to do anything about it.
Wtf are you talking about it’ll be too late to do anything? There is always ways to voice, fight, or resist. You’re already defeated and no one here needs that talk, it’s not helpful and neither of us fully knows what the future holds.
Funny how revenue equals stupid price hikes paid by us…
The law exists and it’s old. The situation is not good but the article is rage bait.
Although the US Constitution grants Congress the sole authority to levy taxes, including tariffs, Congress has passed laws allowing the President to impose tariffs for national security reasons unilaterally.
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Trump directed the USTR to initiate similar investigations to impose tariffs under Section 301 of the Trade Act of 1974.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tariffs_in_the_second_Trump_administration
I don’t understand how what you quoted is less concerning
That depends on your political affiliation. Democrats could have changed the law years ago but haven’t.
Overall it’s more concerning because it reveals that accumulation of power in the hands of the president has been happening for years with no opposition.
Exactly
The Dems could have also ended the tax rates Trump started. They could have expanded SCOTUS, removed the filibuster, or citizens united, and they chose not to try to push the needle back in any meaningful way.
Through their actions, Dems imply their longterm goals are alligned with Republicans.
Bullshit. We’ve gone through that months ago and your link states
Federal courts have ruled that the tariffs imposed under the IEEPA are illegal
And that has nothing to do with the President claiming he can allocate that money as he sees fit
claiming he can allocate that money as he sees fit
I was not able to find any document about it but I remember reading that that’s how it has been handled.
“Allocate” …
But they are Trump’s Tariffs, so ofcourse it’s Trump’s money … right?
He already claims to have received $17 trillion but there is no trace of it, best to cover up all the amounts falling out of his mouth by allowing it all to fall into chaos.