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    I just love, that even in this, they seem to find a way to still, blame Obama and Biden for it.

    This is what happens when you gut national-security training, scrub every mention of Islam, jihad, and Sharia from the manuals, and let Obama- and Biden-era bureaucrats turn counterterrorism into cultural sensitivity class. We’re being led by officials who no longer recognize or refuse to name the enemy they’re inviting into our own backyard.

    The cope is strong with that one.

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    maga “betrayed” blah blah blah. stop every believe fascists are going to ever become decent people. all these maga people “leaving” the party is theatrical bullspit.

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    Ah those MAGA cucks love getting fucked by Trump. It gets them off.

    They’ll complain and then tomorrow go “Yes daddy”

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    I remember what happened the last time US trained middle eastern pilots in the late 90s / very early 2000s

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    Just checked r/Conservative and they seem completely unfazed. They literally do not care.

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      Yup. These stories are just copium articles for the left so we keep letting this shithead do whatever he wants.

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    For what legitimate purpose could Qatar have to put a military facility on Idaho? And Trump and Hegseth have absolutely no legitimate reason to allow it. Clearly payback for the bribery of the Plane and future bribes.

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        God damn people are fucking stupid.

        “Twenty-four years after foreign nationals trained in our flight schools flew planes into our buildings, our leaders are inviting their financiers to train inside our bases. This is what happens when you gut national-security training, scrub every mention of Islam, jihad, and Sharia from the manuals, and let Obama- and Biden-era bureaucrats turn counterterrorism into cultural sensitivity class. We’re being led by officials who no longer recognize or refuse to name the enemy they’re inviting into our own backyard.”

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        Jade Helm, back in '14/'15 was a massive military training exercise across the Southwest. We’d been saber rattling across North Africa and the Middle East for ages, so this was larger than normal but not inconsistent with US foreign policy. Just another day in the paradise of the imperial core.

        But Republican influencers and spokesdorks jumped on it as an actual invasion of the territory being practiced over. Then several of the state governors chimed in, demanding that Obama halt his occupation of their states. We had a big rash of “Should Texas be allowed to secede?!” discourse. Obama issued an apology or some dumb shit. Republicans declared victory. Yadda yadda.

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      Mate, your civil war has already begun. Most of you don’t realize it yet though, but you will soon enough.

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    This is what happens when you gut national-security training, scrub every mention of Islam, jihad, and Sharia from the manuals, and let Obama- and Biden-era bureaucrats turn counterterrorism into cultural sensitivity class. We’re being led by officials who no longer recognize or refuse to name the enemy they’re inviting into our own backyard.’

    Wut.

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    Well at least now we know the price of opening an airbase in the US for non-NATO countries

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          Training bases like that are often put in remote areas where low flying and the noise doesn’t disturb that many people. Qatar is tiny and they can’t really practice at home that well.

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            The joke/issue that you seem to be missing is that Idaho, in general but that area specifically, bought hard into the islamophobia propaganda campaign that was part of the fascist power grab of the early 00s and has only doubled down since.

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              They weren’t justifying they were explaining the decision making process.

              It’s important to know why things happen even if it’s for reasons you don’t agree with.

              Singapore already has a base there for their F-15s, this isn’t anything new so the locals probably won’t care or even see the Qatari pilots.

              I don’t agree with any of this but I also don’t think we should let the media manipulate us with bait that isn’t going to go anywhere.

              We need to keep pressing Epstein, everything else is misdirection.

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            There is no land closer to home they can buy? On the other side of the world is the best option? Seems quite suspect.

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              I think having it inside the US brings some security guarantees that the base is left alone. And it might’ve been part of some bigger deal, Qatar buys some US weapons and they throw in land for the base in return or something.

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                It’s most certainly part of a bigger deal. If the plan to revive US manufacturing is to crank out weaponry count me out.

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            I would imagine there are a hundred other options for countries that would allow a training base that’s not in fucking Idaho that didn’t require a plane as a bribe.

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    Do you regret giving him a pass for that $200 million plane bribe?

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      That’s about half the plane bribe, it’s actually estimated to be around $400 million. There’s also several billion more in Qatari bribes transferred via sketchy business deals involving Trump’s crypto scams, golf courses, hotels, etc.

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    Really, never? Seems like he fucks over his people at least once a week.

    This is what happens when you gut national-security training, scrub every mention of Islam, jihad, and Sharia from the manuals, and let Obama- and Biden-era bureaucrats turn counterterrorism into cultural sensitivity class.

    Christ on sale, these people are stupid. The GOP-led Congress could pass a law called the Fuck Our MAGA Simps In Particular Act, signed by Trump, and they’d still blame Obama.

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    Imagine building military bases in foreign countries then freaking out when a foreign country builds a military base in yours: the US finally gets to know how it feels.

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      Exactly what expeditonary capacity does Qatar have? US based across Europe and Pacific are in compliance with NATO and other defensive treaties. US and Qatar have no such agreements. This entire deal is just Trump and co pocketing a bribe.

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        Exactly what “epiditionary capacity” does the US have? They don’t need permanent bases on foreign soil any more than foreign countries need bases on US soil. US taxpayers certainly don’t want to pay for all this armed forces bloat.

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          I mean the US is one of the few countries that can put like 30k dudes in country at the drop of a hat with thousands more coming right behind. It’s the only reason some countries dealt with us at all.

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            Those countries can learn to take care of themselves: the US doesn’t need to let them freeload by outsourcing armed services to the US instead of investing in their own. While all that US taxpayer spending to bloat the armed services isn’t appreciably improving US living standards with better social services (education, healthcare, poverty & work programs) or going to foreign aid, those countries investing less in their armed services from this arrangement get to dedicate more of their spending to improve their living standards with better social services.

            Alliances don’t require permanent foreign bases: allies can train with & host partners on an as-needed basis when the occasion demands. US taxpayers would prefer to invest in better alternatives that appreciably improve their lives.

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              Unfortunately, even if we could convince them to cut military spending, they wouldn’t use the recaptured funds to improve American life, they’d just give it to the Sociopathic Oligarchs

              That goes for both MAGAs and Dems. The Dems are no different than MAGAs, they would much rather smooch the donors than the voters.

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                they wouldn’t use the recaptured funds to improve American life

                Probably not: voters get the politicians they vote for. At least it’s not wasted on armed services & foreign bases US taxpayers don’t want or need. The mere fact it could be spent better is enough reason not to spend it there.

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              As if trump, or any of the newly elected right wing European prime ministers are going to invest in social services. It’s all about austerity or war machine funding.

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                None of that changes the fact that US taxpayers don’t want to overspend on armed services with their foreign bases & none of that is necessary for an alliance: they’re unneeded & unwanted.

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      It’s also ironic to see some Americans whine about the military invasion of their cities while they’ve been doing much much worse in other countries, against international laws. It’s only appropriate to surround a building with helicopters in the middle of the night, invade their homes, force whole families outside and treat them like animals when it’s done by heroes finding WMDs in a country full of terrorists, not in American cities.

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        To be fair, many of those “whining” also disagree with our history of international conduct.

        The same people who want to “bring democracy” to foreign nations are also cheering on these city invasions.

        We aren’t all shitty.

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          Indeed. They are absolutely right to whine and should in fact do much more than just that. In a way it’s what makes it easy to be cynical about the situation.

          At least so far your heroes haven’t cut power, water, and destroyed civilian infrastructure. Although apparently destroying schools wouldn’t change much in terms of education.

          But still. You aren’t all shitty. Of course. It’s just that the good people will still let this happen and even participate if you give them a reason. I’m old enough to remember the Freedom Fries. I’m old enough to remember people protesting the illegal invasion of another country by the US. See its civilians tortured and described as “collateral damage”. And the people that participated in this are heroes. Veterans. Commenting here. Saying that no, the US will not invade Canada, or Mexico, or Greenland, because the population, and even the troops, wouldn’t allow it. English is not my native language and I struggle to describe how fucking naive, gullible, and wrong that is.

          I could easily be stuck in the US but the “lottery of life” made me born 200 km North of its borders. We don’t choose where we live, or get bombed by a US missile. Some people in the US certainly also know that. I’m just sorry there isn’t more of them/you.