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    Just like last time, Fox News will simply drop the issue before their followers hear this, and they’ll forever remember it as “trans ideologist shooter.”

    This has happened every previous time so it’s kind of pointless to be excited about it.

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      I think they will soley concentrate on the Helldivers quote and claim it’s all the fault of those woke DEI killer games.

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      My two cousins who live in Florida are white supremacists and love desantis like he’s the second coming of Jesus (they’re just OK with trump). They naturally also hate immigrants and want everybody deported. This would be utterly unremarkable for a couple of Floridians except for the fact that they’re half-Thai, the children of my white uncle and the Thai immigrant woman he brought back to the US after serving in Vietnam. My uncle was also anti-immigrant despite having married two immigrants (his second wife was from Spain and also hated immigrants lol). I just do not understand these people.

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      Charlie Kirk had beef with the antisemitic section of the far right which hate Israel.

      Not for any good reason like empathy, but for using US tax dollars and using Jews as a scapegoat.

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    Hey Chaz, what are the mass shooting stats if you don’t include MAGA on MAGA shootings?

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    So I read the “trans ideology” engraving on the ammo was the manufacturer Turan printing “TRN” on it. And US officials started a rumour based on that. Great officials right there. Good training.

    They should be fired, out of a canon, in to the sun.

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    MAGAts awfully quiet all of a sudden.

    Mace went from “democrats must own this” to “Jesus save this lost individual” on cue.

    Evil people, all of them.

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    The last fact published by the media was that Kirk had died.

    Everything since has just been hot garbage peddled by the hot garbage paddlers cabal.

    Urgh. Anything for an advertisement impression.

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    If this turns out to be true, and really even if it doesn’t, I’m just tired of MAGA on MAGA gang violence in the USA. Can’t these people just settle their differences over a Bible or the blood of baby Jesus?

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      I dont like MAGA on MAGA violence and would like it to stop but if it must continue can they at least accept that is what it is? I’m tired of the blame that everyone non-MAGA gets before the MAGA shooter inevitably gets caught.

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        But they want to exterminate all of their perceived enemies. They can’t do that if their greatest enemy is themselves.

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        No maga cannot accept that, such is anathema to their very existence. Their entire identity is to reject, foaming at the mouth, anything that runs counter to the propaganda they’ve been brainwashed into believing is true.

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      Somebody pointed out to me apparently that tracksuit he dressed up in, pepe memes and such were tied into him being a Nick Fuentes fan. Apparently Fuentes and Kirk had a fued, i don’t know anything about it though.

      Meaning this could have just been a Fuentes follower that hated Kirk

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    So Fuentes and Kirk had two separate conservative factions: Groypers and TPUSA, am I getting this right? They have some kind of beef with each other? Messing with rival members? Idk, kinda like gangs, if you will?

    This makes it even more hilariously ironic. He died by his last two words. Who are these writers?

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          I actually know someone (big time ammosexual) that hates the NRA because they “don’t defend gun rights enough”, if you can believe that. But yeah, the Confederates constantly are trying to top each other on the “true conservative” thing.

          They are just like Communists - conservatism can never fail, only people can fail conservatism. If there is ever any indication that conservative policies are failures, that’s only evidence you didn’t do conservatism hard enough.

          So if there is lots of infighting about who is practicing the “real” conservatism, I’m not surprised at all, since they argue over who is truly “maga”, too. The term “maga” is even less useful than trying to define what is “real” conservatism, since it’s a nonsense baby word like googoo and gaga and the only real meaning associated with “maga” seems to ultimately boil down to fealty to one failed game show host who has no real principles other than bottomless vanity and greed.

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      Yes, look up “Groypers” if you want more info. They’re a neo-Nazi white supremacist group that follows Nick Fuentes. They’ve had beef with Kirk, claiming that Kirk wasn’t conservative enough.

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    Ha ha ha ha ha you fucking dumb magats. Wasn’t brown, trans, immigrant or anything. Was white guy with a gun.

    I’m going to love watching America eat itself over this.

    You fucking pathetic losers blame everyone but your own red hat wearing backwater inbred selves.

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      While I understand and agree America has set itself up for this, try to remember MAGAts are only slightly less than half the population (an overly aggressive half, to be sure). Us “woke” people are being forced to suffer for MAGAts’ collective sins, too.

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      Woah woah woah. As the elected representative of the fucking pathetic losers (very small turnout), I will go on record saying that we know that the red hats are the issue, and Chuck Schumer is furiously drafting a letter to Trump right now. This issue should obviously be resolved within the next two weeks.

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      I’m going to love watching America eat itself over this.

      You fucking pathetic losers blame everyone but your own red hat wearing backwater inbred selves.

      Fuck you, eurotrash. You don’t think that many of us see WTF is going on here? We’re headed towards civil war and keyboard warriors like yourself just want to talk trash. Well eat some shit.

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        America has been pissing all over the world for something along the lines of at least a century now. We’ve done at least as much damage as good (just look at our absurd levels of support for Israel as they gleefully openly commit genocide). It should not come as a shock that our comeuppance is being treated as overdue by the world at large.

        It’s just a shame those of us “woke” enough to understand this & who more than likely would have done things much differently have to suffer along with those that actually deserve it for supporting such crappy behavior.

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          I know this.

          I’m way more educated about the fuckery of the U.S.A. on the world stage in the past 75 years than the average dumbfuck.

          Still doesn’t mean I’m not going to swing back if some asshole tries to call me out.

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            Well, then don’t be surprised when your lack of appreciation for perspectives from other points of view ring too much like a MAGAt’s to be easily discernable from such. It wasn’t directed at you personally, but you choose to take it as such.

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              You fucking pathetic losers blame everyone but your own red hat wearing backwater inbred selves.

              'the fuck? That wasn’t directed at me?

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                Do you identify as a “red hat wearing backwater inbred”? If so, then my apologies - feel free to carry on.

                When you criticize another country’s aggressive actions, are you directing it at every random citizen of that country regardless of whether they support their government’s actions? If you’re as informed as you claim, then you know there are protests even in Israel against their government’s genocidal actions. Look at the big picture, and understand generalizations are unlikely to be targeted at you personally if you don’t fit the description of those they’re referencing.

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                  I mean, op said, “I’m going to love watching America eat itself over this.”

                  Could have said “love watching MAGA” or whatever, but that seems pretty directed to “America”?

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                  If I put all of the citizens in one basket? Yes, that’s what I’m doing. If I specify a subset before I go off on some unhinged rant? No.

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          What else should I do? Some people online think I need to rise up and overthrow my government which, although impossible, sounds like a romantic thing to do. But I’m still here, still voting and still out in the street when a protest gets called.

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    Although MAGA figureheads have been quick to point fingers at the left for Kirk’s death, Tyler’s grandmother, Debbie Robinson, 69, [Edit: Nice] insisted that they come from a family of Trump supporters.

    She spoke with Daily Mail on Friday after news of Robinson’s arrest broke. “My son, his dad, is a Republican for Trump,” Debbie told the outlet. “Most of my family members are Republican. I don’t know any single one who’s a Democrat.”

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    Tyler Robinson has previously registered as a nonpartisan voter, but according to Utah Governor Spencer Cox, he had “become more political in recent years.” Cox added that Robinson had told a family member he disliked Kirk and mentioned that Kirk was coming to Utah Valley University.

    Cox shared that Robinson’s roommate had handed in incriminating Discord messages in which Tyler stated specifics about bullet engravings and details about a rifle in a hidden location. Discord, however, released a statement saying Robinson did not plan the attack on their platform or promote violence.